Originally posted by Raoul
what makes you think he was straining?
I guess you dont see the word "hnnnh" and his eyes squinching like he's straining. That was a easy feat for him and the thing about it was that he was being aided by the gls when flying through space. He was straining, no question ask. Then the pyramid was on his back and veins was popping out of his neck.
Originally posted by carver9
I guess you dont see the word "hnnnh" and his eyes squinching like he's straining. That was a easy feat for him and the thing about it was that he was being aided by the gls when flying through space. He was straining, no question ask. Then the pyramid was on his back and veins was popping out of his neck.
or he was just being careful... the thing wasnt just sitting on the ground, it would have had foundations that it needed to be broken from, and he didnt want j'onn's burial tomb to fall apart in his hands did he...
besides, he has plenty of feats far greater...
Originally posted by bbrem123
yea but lifting something from a stationary point is much easier then stopping say the same object from falling at a fast rate
true, but again, its the sentry... 😛
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Surfer has never amped himself to the level of Superman. He has never demonstrated the capacity to amp himself that far.Saying he can do it because he was able to amp over Hulk, is a joke. Superman>>>>Hulk.
hulk is by far the best h2h character out there right now, when he gets goin u cant stop him...wwh is a beast and saying that he is less then superman in that department is just foolish
so surfer takes this becuase of his showing vs the hulk
Originally posted by Raoul
or he was just being careful... the thing wasnt just sitting on the ground, it would have had foundations that it needed to be broken from, and he didnt want j'onn's burial tomb to fall apart in his hands did he...besides, he has plenty of feats far greater...
true, but again, its the sentry... 😛
it would have had foundations that it needed to be broken from
From the scan alone it show a green glow around his body and the gl's body so the gl's aided him in doing that feat.
or he was just being careful... the thing wasnt just sitting on the ground,
and where are you getting this from, was this something that was said in the comic or is it something that you just added into it. He was straining and if the hulk made the same impressions that superman while lifting that space ship one handed then he would have been straining also. If it was a easy feat for him there wouldnt need to be a reason for him to say "hnnh" while picking up something. Was this something that hulk said when he was lifting that mountain in secret wars.
besides, he has plenty of feats far greater...
Tell me these feats that dont consider him flying or being out of space where there is no gravity.
Originally posted by carver9Carver, I asked nicely above for everyone to get back to the topic. Take your discussion to another thread. It's not "our" responsibly to prove anything especially when it's common knowledge for anyone who's picked up a JLA or Superman comic. Look in the respect thread for strength feats. Also, Hulk isn't part of this thread.
From the scan alone it show a green glow around his body and the gl's body so the gl's aided him in doing that feat.and where are you getting this from, was this something that was said in the comic or is it something that you just added into it. He was straining and if the hulk made the same impressions that superman while lifting that space ship one handed then he would have been straining also. If it was a easy feat for him there wouldnt need to be a reason for him to say "hnnh" while picking up something. Was this something that hulk said when he was lifting that mountain in secret wars.
Tell me these feats that dont consider him flying or being out of space where there is no gravity.
Originally posted by Badabing
Carver, I asked nicely above for everyone to get back to the topic. Take your discussion to another thread. It's not "our" responsibly to prove anything especially when it's common knowledge for anyone who's picked up a JLA or Superman comic. Look in the respect thread for strength feats. Also, Hulk isn't part of this thread.
My bad, I didnt read your post until my post went through. If you can, delete my response before someone reply to it.
Thanks.
Originally posted by carver9I doubt the ship was half the size of that pyramid that Superman lifted. And it's hard to see how big the chunk of rock was that he threw at the conclusion of 'Planet Hulk.' But the fact that it wrecked half a mountain in the far distance IS telling. I never saw that until you pointed it out.
Superman straining to lift up a damn pyramid.
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=su1lr5.jpgHulk one handing a space ship that was about half the size of that pyramid.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength1.jpgHulk picking up something twice the size of that damn pyramid that superman is straining to pick up. The sad thing about it is that hulk threw the pyramid like it wasnt nothing but a damn baseball and destroyed a mountain with it.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength4.jpgThats just half of it, get some knowledge on hulk before claiming something. Hulk strength>>>>superman.
and none of these feats are amp feats. Would you love for me to show you a calm hulk picking up a mountain.
Originally posted by Starscream MA whole lot. But it's irrelevant. Marvel characters don't use tactile kinesis to assist their super strong heroes in lifting objects like that. If Sentry brought his full strength on it, he would have accidentally left a Sentry sized hole in the hull and the helicarrier would have still fallen.
I wonder how much a hellicarrier weighs...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
A whole lot. But it's irrelevant. Marvel characters don't use tactile kinesis to assist their super strong heroes in lifting objects like that. If Sentry brought his full strength on it, he would have accidentally left a Sentry sized hole in the hull and the helicarrier would have still fallen.
haha good one. 😂
haven't guys in marvel done logically impossible things like lifting a building without it breaking apart?
^ Maybe you're referring to the only known example of tactile kinesis in a classic Byrne issue of Fantastic Four. At least, it's the only known example I can think of. That ability was never fully explained but any suggestion that it was tactile kinesis has been retconned. I explained this in another thread:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I cannot, in all my years of reading Marvel comics... think of any other instance other than the retconned Baxter Building feat where tactile kinesis might have been employed. Ever. Savage Hulk only braced against the weight of a mountain in 'Secret Wars.' Spiderman only braced part of Daily Bugle through a support beam. In 'Secret Wars II,' a naive Beyonder turned Iron Fist's and Powerman's Heroes For Hire building into solid gold. This resulted in it's collapse under it's own weight.
Marvel comics don't use tactile kinesis to justify supporting things that wouldn't support their own weight. Check these scans out. Gladiator has strength to break planets apart and arguably even used to have tactile kinesis:http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2315/gladiatorvsfantasticfour064ik.jpg
Well check out a much more current Gladiator trying to stop a plane from crashing and you let me know what you think. Let me spell it out for you in his own words, "If I push any harder, the stress will rip the plane to shreds!" Marvel doesn't utilize tactile kinesis, at least, not anymore:
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9087/vsglads2e1ec0vy.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2328/vsglads2f1mk7wd.jpg
There are plenty of instances where large objects collapse or crumple under their own weight in Marvel comics. Attempting to belittle Sentry's strength when Marvel doesn't employ tactile kinesis is ignorant. Once again, the Baxter Building feat appears to be the sole tactile kinesis feat and is handily retconned. Even if someone could find another example (by all means, try to, I'd genuinely be interested in seeing it), I can confidently say that there are no tactile kinesis feats AFTER the above Thor vs. Gladiator comic was published. And you're not going to see something like the following scan anytime soon in any Marvel comic. Here, we got Superman holding up half a building. Do you know what his hands are bracing against to support all that weight? Glass window panes. 🙄
Originally posted by RaoulYouTube video
or he was just being careful... the thing wasnt just sitting on the ground, it would have had foundations that it needed to be broken from, and he didnt want j'onn's burial tomb to fall apart in his hands did he...besides, he has plenty of feats far greater...
true, but again, its the sentry... 😛
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Maybe you're referring to the only known example of tactile kinesis in a classic Byrne issue of Fantastic Four. At least, it's the only known example I can think of. That ability was never fully explained but any suggestion that it was tactile kinesis has been retconned. I explained this in another thread:
I cannot, in all my years of reading Marvel comics... think of any other instance other than the retconned Baxter Building feat where tactile kinesis might have been employed. Ever. Savage Hulk only braced against the weight of a mountain in 'Secret Wars.' Spiderman only braced part of Daily Bugle through a support beam. In 'Secret Wars II,' a naive Beyonder turned Iron Fist's and Powerman's Heroes For Hire building into solid gold. This resulted in it's collapse under it's own weight.There are plenty of instances where large objects collapse or crumple under their own weight in Marvel comics. Attempting to belittle Sentry's strength when Marvel doesn't employ tactile kinesis is ignorant. Once again, the Baxter Building feat appears to be the sole tactile kinesis feat and is handily retconned. Even if someone could find another example (by all means, try to, I'd genuinely be interested in seeing it), I can confidently say that there are no tactile kinesis feats AFTER the above Thor vs. Gladiator comic was published. And you're not going to see something like the following scan anytime soon in any Marvel comic. Here, we got Superman holding up half a building. Do you know what his hands are bracing against to support all that weight? Glass window panes. 🙄
Wow, good post.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I doubt the ship was half the size of that pyramid that Superman lifted. And it's hard to see how big the chunk of rock was that he threw at the conclusion of 'Planet Hulk.' But the fact that it wrecked half a mountain in the far distance IS telling. I never saw that until you pointed it out.
A whole lot. But it's irrelevant. Marvel characters don't use tactile kinesis to assist their super strong heroes in lifting objects like that. If Sentry brought his full strength on it, he would have accidentally left a Sentry sized hole in the hull and the helicarrier would have still fallen.
If that rock that hulk chunked at the mountain destroyed it, it had to be at least twice the size of that pyramid unless you think a pyramid can destroy a mountain.
I agree, the ship wasnt half the size of the pyramid but it had to weigh thousands of tons and hulk one handed it. But the mods told me to stay off this subject and I actually got a warning so PLEASE dont respond back to my post.
