Originally posted by ultimatethor
Surfer while being considerably the most durable would probably finish last cuz of his lower H2H fighting skills. Superman has got lower H2h skills than thor but he is faster so hed win that battle.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i was thinking the same thing, but for me the only X value is the fact that the surfer can amp his strength to an unknown degree if he channels his power cosmic into his musculature the same way the champion of the universe does.
Surfer has never amped himself to the level of Superman. He has never demonstrated the capacity to amp himself that far.
Saying he can do it because he was able to amp over Hulk, is a joke. Superman>>>>Hulk.
Originally posted by TricksterPriesti never stated he has or can make his strength superman's level, i just insinuated that the level he can amp himself is unknown. and given the power source superman uses to gain power's norrin amping himself in the same manner is not completely far fetched.
Surfer has never amped himself to the level of Superman. He has never demonstrated the capacity to amp himself that far.Saying he can do it because he was able to amp over Hulk, is a joke. Superman>>>>Hulk.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Surfer has never amped himself to the level of Superman. He has never demonstrated the capacity to amp himself that far.Saying he can do it because he was able to amp over Hulk, is a joke. Superman>>>>Hulk.
I think that you typed this wrong Hulk>>>>>>>>>>Superman when it come to strength.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Surfer has never amped himself to the level of Superman. He has never demonstrated the capacity to amp himself that far.Saying he can do it because he was able to amp over Hulk, is a joke. Superman>>>>Hulk.
When has surfer ever amped his strength level to being greater than hulk? Also superman and hulk have always been comparable strength wise and people have different opinions on it. It can be argued to death. Simply saying superman >>>>hulk just wont cut it. I can also say hulk>>>>superman. Superman still wins IMO
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Superman in most appearances>>>>>Hulk in strength, but Hulk can and has amped himself beyond Superman.
Superman straining to lift up a damn pyramid.
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=su1lr5.jpg
Hulk one handing a space ship that was about half the size of that pyramid.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength1.jpg
Hulk picking up something twice the size of that damn pyramid that superman is straining to pick up. The sad thing about it is that hulk threw the pyramid like it wasnt nothing but a damn baseball and destroyed a mountain with it.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength4.jpg
Thats just half of it, get some knowledge on hulk before claiming something. Hulk strength>>>>superman.
and none of these feats are amp feats. Would you love for me to show you a calm hulk picking up a mountain.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I dont know, from the limited appearances of Thor that I have read, he seems to have too many faults:1) his intelligence seems kinda low
2) he's usually a follower, not a leader
3) his emotions overtake him oftenAll of the above are true =) thor can beat supes but in a pure physical situation. he will need his belt of strength.
This match obviously favors supes case you basically stripped thor and surfer of 80% of their powers and gave supes all of his minus heat vision which wont do crap to thor or surfer.
hey i got one lets strip all of the combatants of their physicall strength and super speed and lets see what happens lol.
Thor has not really impressed me as much more than the requisite muscle on a team
Originally posted by carver9
Superman straining to lift up a damn pyramid.
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=su1lr5.jpg
what makes you think he was straining?
Originally posted by Starscream M
when exactly did I mudsling?I stated that Thor's millenia of experience might be overstated and that in itself does not amount to proving he's a better fighter
Ok listen. Dont go saying thors fighting experience is overated. Thor and superman have one thing in common. They are both vastly powerful in diffrent ways.
One other thing the both have in common. They can take out the most powerful of combatants then the very next day loose to a lightweight. Thor starts looseing when his brain turns off and goes into slugfest mode. But when thor is serious. Look out supes.
Superman on the other hand. is physically strong faster and more duribale. But he suffers from "Oh i have compassion for everyone syndrome" this gets him in trouble alot. supes going all out. Thats scary in a PHYSICAL confrontation.
Superman and thor are both excellent fighters. Just superman is more of a pure brawler where as thor is a half brawler and spell caster too. The only way for thor to surpass supes in strength is to use his belt of strength.
supes wins more often then thor or surfer under theses circumstances.
