Originally posted by Joy-Roc
im just sayin, if pc supes let the hulk hit him with that much force don't you think it might brusie him a little bit?
PC Sups at his worst was basically immune to any force in the universe that wasent directly magic or Kryptonite.These days wouldnt care much for a character writen like that but back then it was "The Way Superman is"
People need to look in the Superman forum regarding his limit-less. There are good theories that much of Supes feats of strength are due to psionics; the same mental will that makes him fly can be used to move unearthly heavy objects he touches. Even PC Superman may not have the same, ACTUAL raw power as the Hulk; it's ALL muscle and power with him, nothing else. It can make a difference in a straight punch-up.
Originally posted by roughrider
People need to look in the Superman forum regarding his limit-less. There are good theories that much of Supes feats of strength are due to psionics; the same mental will that makes him fly can be used to move unearthly heavy objects he touches. Even PC Superman may not have the same, ACTUAL raw power as the Hulk; it's ALL muscle and power with him, nothing else. It can make a difference in a straight punch-up.
Well, I've seen debates that Superman's strength is some sort of tele-kinesis mixed with psionics. This is the same argument that had Superboy (the current one not the 70s version) getting more powers as he grew older. Currently he only has his telekinesis, but someday may have more powers (although being a clone of Lex and Supes should make such a development interesting).
Anyways, on the power levels.
PRe-Crisis Superman would have nothing to fear from the Hulk. And think of it this way. The biggest feats that the Hulk has done have been lifting that mountain back in the day, as well as throwing some gemstone to the center of the earth through all that rock.
Pretty darn impressive, huh?
Well, before you break out the champagne consider what Pre-Crisis Supes has done!
For example juggling planets! That is greater than lifting a moutain.
OR, to take another example, sneezing and through that simple act blowing an entire galaxy away. Far greater than sending a diamond to the earth's core.
Strength wise, the Hulk is NO WHERE NEAR PC Superman level. PC Superman is basically insane.
And in some of the comics from 2 decades past he has powers that are beyond anything the Spectre could come up with today. Supes back then had any power necessary to win, and would come up with powers on the go (check out superhypnosis, super ventriloquism, etc).
And strength wise no one came close. The Hulk wouldn't have a chance.
Both are characters with insane amounts of power and both are written to do ungodly feats at the drop of a dime.
They would be matched in strength since supes silver age is ridiculously strong, but savage hulk can quickly gain the same level of strength.
He gets stronger with rage, but also with necessity(at times).
He instantly went from around base level to a massively huge colossol mountain range lifting level in as quick as it took for the thing to be dropped on him.
So as you can see(in contrast to what some stupid people think) it doesn't take hulk a long time to get really super duper uber strong.
Now speedwise supes will take him.
Hulk is fast(mach speed), but he can't compare to supes(several times light), however, he can't achieve this speed instantly as it takes awhile to even ahieve regular light speed(law of physics)
Supes would not fight at light speed anyway,
He would fight at mach speeds, but that's about it(in keeping with his character).
Supes has a new power every time you blink your eyes, but hulk also, sprouts new abilities like with his soundwave clap and bustin' the reality barrier and etc.
I don't know who would win, but I can say it would be a damn good fight.
Originally posted by jplatinumPre-C-Superman could kick the planet and bounce it off of the Source Wall at the edge of the Universe, how you even consider Hulk near that level is beyond me. Also Pre-C-Supes TELEPORTED, he didn't need Light speed or even beyond, he was just THERE when he wanted to be. Also, he could time-travel!
Both are characters with insane amounts of power and both are written to do ungodly feats at the drop of a dime.
They would be matched in strength since supes silver age is ridiculously strong, but savage hulk can quickly gain the same level of strength.
He gets stronger with rage, but also with necessity(at times).
He instantly went from around base level to a massively huge colossol mountain range lifting level in as quick as it took for the thing to be dropped on him.
So as you can see(in contrast to what some stupid people think) it doesn't take hulk a long time to get really super duper uber strong.Now speedwise supes will take him.
Hulk is fast(mach speed), but he can't compare to supes(several times light), however, he can't achieve this speed instantly as it takes awhile to even ahieve regular light speed(law of physics)
Supes would not fight at light speed anyway,
He would fight at mach speeds, but that's about it(in keeping with his character).
Supes has a new power every time you blink your eyes, but hulk also, sprouts new abilities like with his soundwave clap and bustin' the reality barrier and etc.I don't know who would win, but I can say it would be a damn good fight.