pre-crisis superman Vs the hulk (When he could lift that 150,000,000,000 ton mountian

Started by GalacticStorm7 pages

Also Hulk never lifted the mountain. He braced a small section of it. Just enough to stop that section from falling and squishing the gathered heroes. Even then he stated he could only do it because of the leverage he had on that small section. Just check out Secret Wars for confirmation.

<<Also Hulk never lifted the mountain. He braced a small section of it. Just enough to stop that section from falling and squishing the gathered heroes. Even then he stated he could only do it because of the leverage he had on that small section. Just check out Secret Wars for confirmation.>>

his 'lifting' those mountains has ALWAYS been one of my more hated misconceptions. you are exactly right, gs. wish MORE people would understand actually happened there.

Even if he DID lift the mountain, a mountain is still not much for Superman.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Also Hulk never lifted the mountain. He braced a small section of it. Just enough to stop that section from falling and squishing the gathered heroes. Even then he stated he could only do it because of the leverage he had on that small section. Just check out Secret Wars for confirmation.

Indeed. And theoretically, he couldn't have lifted it because it was not Savage or Mindless Hulk (Professor Hulk if I remember correctly), and he was pretty calm a second before he lifted that mountain !

Now if it was Mindless Hulk who was going berserk, well maybe I could understand it, but a normal talking calm Hulk suddenly becoming unbelievably strong in 2 or 3 seconds : Classic example of crap writing.

Imo the feat is overblown, considering even post-crisis Superman can bench the moon and was helping Wonder Woman plus the Martian Manhunter moving the Earth.

You also have to consider that when Hulk held that Mountain he was controlled by Banner and was taunted by Mr Fantastic so it really wasn't Savage Hulk.

Do you know how many 150 Billion tons mountains the earth has ? Do you know how much the average plannet weighs ? Pre Crisis Supes had no problem moving plannets. Supes on a avergae day (Post Crisis) is illustrated at the level of strength shown by Hulk in the secret wars. If Hulk started off at this level, usually i think he would have a good chance of defeating Superman, but he isn't. This version of the Hulk would do better than the Hilk depicted at normal levels, but e still should have no chance. As it was shown during the 2nd Spiderman vs Superman crossover, When Pre Crisis Superman didn't want to be moved, he wasn't moved. 🙂

Pre-Crisis Superman could also wipe minds.

Originally posted by Juntai
Pre-Crisis Superman could also wipe minds.

And it was a universal problem when ever he had a cold, or got hay fever. 🙂

The facts are just because you never seen the Hulk move a Planet does not mean he couldn't. "In times of stress the Hulk's adrenaline level escalates, causing a corresponding escalation in strength. This is not accompanied by an additional gain in mass, but does appear to promote increased levels of energy efficiency. To date the Hulk has never apparently been provoked into demonstrating a maximum output of strength; hence, its upper limit remains a mystery"

it officail golem is the biggest marvel fan of them all. he cant seem to beleive any DC character can defeat any marvel character.

I am debating like everybody else here. By the way just came across this Character

Originally posted by golem370
I am debating like everybody else here. By the way just came across this Character

Oh...from the professor Hulk days, drawn by Gary Frank?
I can see that 'other' Thor with the red hair with the Hulk down below. What was his story again?
The wolf - that supposed to be Farnir(?), the wolf-hound in Ragnarok who slays Odin?

Originally posted by golem370
The facts are just because you never seen the Hulk move a Planet does not mean he couldn't. "In times of stress the Hulk's adrenaline level escalates, causing a corresponding escalation in strength. This is not accompanied by an additional gain in mass, but does appear to promote increased levels of energy efficiency. To date the Hulk has never apparently been provoked into demonstrating a maximum output of strength; hence, its upper limit remains a mystery"

And just because you havn't seen Pre Crisis Superman beat Galactus, the L.T. lucifer and the phoenix force, doesn't mean he cant do it. 😕

Originally posted by yahman
And just because you havn't seen Pre Crisis Superman beat Galactus, the L.T. lucifer and the phoenix force, doesn't mean he cant do it. 😕
😆 😆 😆

Re: pre-crisis superman Vs the hulk (When he could lift that 150,000,000,000 ton mountian

Originally posted by Joy-Roc
That kind of force should raddle sups mind!

Being able to use leverage to support a section of that mountain, while Reed Richards is provoking you is peanuts to Pre-crisis Superman. Supes murders Hulk. Supes is too fast and too strong.

Pre Crisis Supes wins everytime. Hell, I wouldn't give Hulk more than 2/10 against Post Crisis Supes.

Which takes more power,
kicking a planet around or punching through time and space itself with just your fist and an ungodly amount of strength.
Hulk wins.

When has the normal Savage Hulk punched through the time barrier?

Originally posted by Ultimate Ion
When has the normal Savage Hulk punched through the time barrier?
Savage hulk wasn't the one that "lifted" the mountain.