pre-crisis superman Vs the hulk (When he could lift that 150,000,000,000 ton mountian

Originally posted by carver9
What I'm saying is i understand the difference between average walk around strength and high end.

Also, Time, I agree, PC Superman stomps this. That's the weakest version of Hulk.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
I do too, but since these characters tend to hold back what's the point in sticking to their "walk around strength"?

Average strength doesn't have a thing to do with holding back though. By the way, Hulk (within the Herald tier) is literally the only person I can think of that has lifted a mountain, especially without straining. Anything comparable requires some effort on a Herald part.

Originally posted by carver9
Average strength doesn't have a thing to do with holding back though. By the way, Hulk (within the Herald tier) is literally the only person I can think of that has lifted a mountain, especially without straining. Anything comparable requires some effort on a Herald part.

You keep saying that but i've seen nothing to back it up.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Yeah it does depending on the character.

You keep saying that but i've seen nothing to back it up.

Don't know what you're asking for tbh. Are you asking me to post a character lifting something of equal of lesser weight that is similar and them struggling to lift it or putting some effort into lifting it?

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know what you're asking for tbh. Are you asking me to post a character lifting something of equal of lesser weight that is similar and them struggling to lift it or putting some effort into lifting it?

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Yeah, and if you have more than one instance for character, i would appreciate it.

Which character?

Thought it was already established Hulk only braced the weight of the mountain

Originally posted by carver9
Which character?

Please don't turn this into a lowball fest

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Surfer, thor, supes etc.

Please don't turn this into a lowball fest

Choose one out of them. Too much work doing all of them.

Originally posted by carver9
Choose one out of them. Too much work doing all of them.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
No, i choose thor and supes.

Why are you choosing more than one? You don't believe in what you are saying?

Originally posted by carver9
Why are you choosing more than one? You don't believe in what you are saying?

You said lifting a mountain is beyond a HH average, so logic says you'd have to prove multiple HHs being unable to lift that weight, it's common sense.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Of course i do, mate.

You said lifting a mountain is beyond a HH average, so logic says you'd have to prove multiple HHs being unable to lift that weight, it's common sense.

It doesnt seem like you are confident since you are worried about picking one person. Understandable though. Concession accepted.

Originally posted by carver9
It doesnt seem like you are confident since you are worried about picking one person. Understandable though. Concession accepted.

You avoiding prove your point is a concession that I gladly accept.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Lol.

You avoiding prove your point is a concession that I gladly accept.

No one is going through a list of fts for 2 characters. If you are confident in what you say, you would of chose one person, but your not.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thought it was already established Hulk only braced the weight of the mountain

Yeah, it was. But every few years the Hulk fans return with the claim, hoping *this time* ppl have forgotten the original facts.

Originally posted by Magnon
Yeah, it was. But every few years the Hulk fans return with the claim, hoping *this time* ppl have forgotten the original facts.

They redid the story. Maybe if you kept up with the latest stories/comics, you would know this.

Originally posted by carver9
They redid the story. Maybe if you kept up with the latest stories/comics, you would know this.

Nah, the original story is still canon. But glad to see you implicitly admit that in the original story Hulk did NOT lift the mountain.

Originally posted by Magnon
Nah, the original story is still canon. But glad to see you implicitly admit that in the original story Hulk did NOT lift the mountain.

👆

Glad they remade it and it's canon. Moving on, Superman wins.

Originally posted by carver9
No one is going through a list of fts for 2 characters. If you are confident in what you say, you would of chose one person, but your not.

You stated that any HH would fail or struggle to lift a mountain yet you avoid presenting proof by making me choose one character. The HH tier has only one character carver?