Re: You just forgot my previous arguments... This is going to take a long time.
Originally posted by Ytaker
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They are distinct. As I said before, people have different reactions to different situations. Jesus is a part of God, and as a point, only one being can have the power. It cannot be shared. Jesus and God have the power.Just pointing out that I have a decent answer to questions, whilst you often speak nonsense.
That shows a very poor understanding of humanity. We can translate things badly, and we can also translate things in mysterious ways. The KJV has been found to be unfaithful to the Greek, and was done an age ago, when the English language had more Thys and Thees. If you use it it seems likely that when there's another verse that has a slightly different meaning
Okay. They are distinct. so they are not one person or one of being God. 🙂
Yes. Only God is powerful. Jesus Himself admitted that. He cannot do anything without God. The miracles and wonders He did was God's, not His. God did it through the 'intrumentalization' of His Son, Jesus. According to Jesus Himself, all authorities were given to Him (meaning, not inherent to Him) by God.
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Originally posted by Ytaker
Only a conscious being can have things that aren't itself being put into the possessive. Think of these examples.The lion's pack ripped apart it's prey
Because Eiffel protected his workers with guardrails, screens and movable staging, only one man died
The mountain's mineral content is igneous as it is a volcano.
The Sun's Mercury orbited it
Consider the bottom one where I put in a possessive for something else with an inanimate object. It doesn't work. You can only use the possessive for living beings. Therefore, they must be talking about part of the sun.
At the request of my sister (who is commandeering the computer) I will put out several smilies.
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The fact remains that the sun is distinct to sunlight. Meaning these two things are different and not one.
Same also to the Father. He is not the Son. The Father and the Son are two different persons. The Father is the only true God. Meaning God and Jesus are two different persons...not one.
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Originally posted by Jury
Yes. You didn't get the passage. 🙄 I understand.
Oh I see, You didn't get the passage and you are a jesus freak and actually believe that if there was a supernatural being it would care for us. 🙄 I understand. 🙂
I mean you are right God and Jesus are not the same.
Jesus was some crazy guy (surely nice but that doesn't matter) and God doesn't exist. So they are not the same at all. 🙂
Yes actually if there was a supernatural being I would fid it more logicqal that he doesn't screw some tenn and makes her get his baby and stuff. Maybe he does that on very planet he created sure sounds reasonable. If their was a a god he wouldn't give a damn if you worship him nor would he even reckognize that you exist. If we are lucky we would be to him as stones are to us probably even less. The Bible is BS cause a god lile that just can'T exist, its not reasonable.
Yes actually if there was a supernatural being I would fid it more logicqal that he doesn't screw some tenn and makes her get his baby and stuff.
He didnt.
Maybe he does that on very planet he created sure sounds reasonable.
He still didnt
If their was a a god he wouldn't give a damn if you worship him nor would he even reckognize that you exist.
Based on?
If we are lucky we would be to him as stones are to us probably even less. The Bible is BS cause a god lile that just can'T exist, its not reasonable.
Its not reasonable because? A rock is simlpy a bad comparison as it has no life and you didnt create it.
First what is Jesus then?
That was just a general assumption on what I would do if I was god. And well he might reckognize it but tell me why he should care for you or anybody else? And juit saying but he does, well prove it.
Well good then Not a rock, even though you are probably no ,kor to him, I drew pictures as a kid I created them if god cares for us as much as I do for thodse pictures well that would be a lot than.
And what makes you even think you are better than a stone, I think youi are a bit cocky on that point, whats this Life thing you talk aboot that makes you better?
First what is Jesus then?
That was just a general assumption on what I would do if I was god. And well he might reckognize it but tell me why he should care for you or anybody else? And juit saying but he does, well prove it.
Well good then Not a rock, even though you are probably no ,kor to him, I drew pictures as a kid I created them if god cares for us as much as I do for thodse pictures well that would be a lot than.
Jesus is the son of god, I dont know where you got the idea of 'sex' from though. I didnt say "he does" one time in my post so I dont know what you are talking about.
You insist he wouldnt, based on absolutely no reasn, just your own whim. You couldnt possibly think on the same level as an omniscent being but if he created people, why wouldnt he care about them?
Pictures arent alive, they dont have a consciousness either.
And what makes you even think you are better than a stone, I think youi are a bit cocky on that point, whats this Life thing you talk aboot that makes you better?
What are you talking about?
I am talking aboot that you for some reason think that you are more imoportant than a stone which I think is a really really cocky thing to do.
And yes you are right I can't think as an omniscent being and I admitted it was just an assunmtion I made.
Now to the picture again you are saying you are in some way better or more importsant thatn a picture just cause you are alive, what kind of lie is that? Does it make you feel good to think you are important cause you are alive? And again he is a superior being very much like we are, or at least think we are superior to non living things. So why shoukld he care for us, I mean great if he does but I don'T understand it (I see I don'T have to understand it but I would like to yaou kn ow)
Now to Jesus the son of god. There was a girl once and she was a virgin and all and then sometime later she is pregnant and gets a child. Maybe he didn'T bang her but goddamit she gave birth to his son so, you know its weird. And if there are alien races did he do that with them to?
I am talking aboot that you for some reason think that you are more imoportant than a stone which I think is a really really cocky thing to do.
It has nothing to do with cockiness. Its not even about superiority because inanimate objects are not even in any kind of contention.
Now to the picture again you are saying you are in some way better or more importsant thatn a picture just cause you are alive, what kind of lie is that? Does it make you feel good to think you are important cause you are alive? And again he is a superior being very much like we are, or at least think we are superior to non living things. So why shoukld he care for us, I mean great if he does but I don'T understand it (I see I don'T have to understand it but I would like to yaou kn ow)
"Just because you are alive". Humans are more important than animals and inanimate objects. That is simply the way things are.
Yes he is superior but he created living beings with consciousnesses, that is very much different from a piece of paper. If you wanted to draw a more reasonable comparison you should have used parent to child.
As to why he cares, I suppose its because he loves his creation.
Maybe he didn'T bang her but goddamit she gave birth to his son so, you know its weird. And if there are alien races did he do that with them to?
I cant really speak about aliens, personally I dont think they exist.
Ok first of all. Humans are not superior to animal by any means, I can understsand why you think you are more important than inanimate things, even thoughb this again is not true. Now I guess my comparision was much better than yours since a parent children relationship between two parts of a species and god is surely not the same species we are. And don'T you think his omniscents puts him so much higher than us? Oh and if there are noi aliens why exactly did god create such a big universe? Wouldn't our solar system have been absilutely suffivcent?
Ok first of all. Humans are not superior to animal by any means, I can understsand why you think you are more important than inanimate things, even thoughb this again is not true.
You claim that humans arent superior to animals, fair enough I guess that is your opinion. Though of course I completely disagree. As to inanimate objects and so on, please justify your statement in some way.
Now I guess my comparision was much better than yours since a parent children relationship between two parts of a species and god is surely not the same species we are. And don'T you think his omniscents puts him so much higher than us?
A parent to child is the best comparison because they created the child and the child has a concsiousness. God is not a human but none the less people are his children, his creation. Yes of course his omniscents puts him incaculably higher.
Oh and if there are noi aliens why exactly did god create such a big universe? Wouldn't our solar system have been absilutely suffivcent?
Its not like I could answer that question but at the same time does it matter?