Originally posted by Marchello
***You can NEVER get away with that one. There is NO ONE on this board who is more organized than I am...and I NEVER misquote ANYONE...
Verbal masturbation is a poor substitute for reality. As soon as you realize that you fight so hard for a god that you yourself do not understand, then you'll be much happier. As soon as you realize it isn't a matter of quoting people who presume to speak for "god" and more a matter of those who actually understand what "god" said, then you'll be much happier.
It's just too bad that you have condemned "god" to speak only for you. And how is that not a totally ignorant way to view god and everything "he" has created for you? If you want to live in a one dimensional world, that's you issue...not the rest of the world's.
But, I'm sure that if "I" thought I had the absolute truth cornered, then I would be as dismissive and arrogant as you are. But, I don't. It's just too bad that you have to deal with hatred and inconsideration in front of the very god you hold up to be most high...not me. You know, the whole"remove the plank" bullshit. You've already condemned yourself. As soon as you figure out the difference between what baby Jesus actually said and how people decided to use it to serve their own ends, then you'll discover enlightenment.
Originally posted by Marchello
How would you know that? Have you EVER been able to REFUTE anything that I have said?...have you even tried? No you haven't. So, Sir, I would suggest that you temper your remarks because you know no such thing.
The overall message of Christ, taken as a whole, as presented in the Bible, refutes your behavior as you have presented on KMC. Christ's manner of love and your manner are two different things. I do not need to quote verses, but here is the one that I believe refutes your behavior, in two references, that was one of the final statements he made prior to the crucifixion, in the text of the Bible:
John 13: 34
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.John 15: 12
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
Stated as he served them with great humility.
Originally posted by Marchello
*["God is not the author of confusion..."]***Correct.
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*["...- Your posts are confusing due to lack of proper organization in quoting other's comments, I told you in the first reply I ever made to you at KMC that this was the case, as well as supplying explaination as to the method one should use to quote others."]
***You can NEVER get away with that one. There is NO ONE on this board who is more organized than I am...and I NEVER misquote ANYONE...and have a very good grasp of the English language and punctuation techniques. Too, I go to great lengths to organize my remarks and to check my references to back up my claims...as opposed to you and others who offer no references for ANYTHING and only offer their opinions NOT substantiated by facts.
The fact of the matter is that you and others are envious of my organization and knowledge of the Scriptures and CANNOT refute them.
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*["The devil can quote scripture."]
***Yes, he can. In point of fact, he deceived mother Eve in the Garden by causing doubt in her mind by telling her that "Ye shall not surely die" [Genesis 3:4] if she partook of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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*["Just because you quote the Bible doesn't mean you know the truth of its text."]
***How would you know that? Have you EVER been able to REFUTE anything that I have said?...have you even tried? No you haven't. So, Sir, I would suggest that you temper your remarks because you know no such thing.
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*["I have yet to see you engender a loving atmosphere with a post, and have only seen you sow discord..."]
***You do NOT know what LOVE is...I can tell you that of a CERTAINTY. The Biblical definition of LOVE is NOT synonymous with your worldly "touchy feely" definition. The definition of LOVE as given in the Scriptures is embodied in [John 3:16]: "For God so LOVED the world, that He gave His only begotten SON, that whosoever BELIEVETH in HIM should NOT perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE" [John 3:16]. That is the GODLY definition of LOVE...that God sent His SON Jesus to SAVE SINNERS...of whom I am chief [1 Timothy 1:15].
When I post the people on these boards and tell them that they are SINNERS and need to be SAVED by the BLOOD of Jesus Christ, I am telling them the TRUTH in LOVE because that is what the Scriptures say...and it is the TRUTH...NOT as I only see it but as the Scriptures dictate.
The REASON that you and the others see it as "sowing discord" is because you DO NOT BELIEVE what the Scriptures say... it is DISTASTEFUL and FOOLISHNESS to you...for it is written: "For the preaching of the cross is to them that PERISH foolishness; but unto us which are SAVED it is the POWER of God" [1 Corinthians 1:18]. There is a UNITY between TRUE believers in Christ and NO DISCORD...one FAITH...one BAPTISM...one LORD. I CANNOT and do NOT cause DISUNITY on this board because there is NO UNITY among unbelievers!
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*["Such is not an aspect of the command to love thy neighbor or thy God. Christ's example, as portrayed in the Bible, was of humility, love, charity and peace none of which has been observable in your posts."]
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*["There is no need to quote scripture..."]
***Yes there is: "All Scripture is given by INSPIRATION of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION in RIGHTEOUSNESS: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" [2 Timothy 3:16-17].
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*["...even someone not well versed in scripture can see you do not embody Christ like attributes in your posts."]
***If they know not the Scriptures...nor are well-versed in them...HOW would they know that I do not "embody Christ-like attributes?
Marchello
Marcello, didn't I tell you to shut the **** up ?
Originally posted by RegretI think you need to do better though. I am not condoning what Marchello does (nor am I condemning it), but Jesus came and like Marchello told people they were sinners, he called people out of their religion, he told them they needed to be saved and how to do so. Marchello, though abrasive, is not necessarily out of line. When you realize that there is the possiblity that there is no hatred in his words you might realize that he is not entirely wrong.
The overall message of Christ, taken as a whole, as presented in the Bible, refutes your behavior as you have presented on KMC. Christ's manner of love and your manner are two different things. I do not need to quote verses.
*["The overall message of Christ, taken as a whole, as presented in the Bible, refutes your behavior as you have presented on KMC. Christ's manner of love and your manner are two different things..."]
***Your post CONFIRMS the fact that you KNOW NOT the Scriptures nor UNDERSTAND them...to wit: In [John 13:34] we are told that the 11 disciples would survive in His absence by OBEYING His example of LOVE. This COMMANDMENT is NEW...in that it is a "special LOVE" for OTHER BELIEVERS...based on the SACRIFICIAL love of Jesus. Let me REPEAT that for you "Bishop' Regret...it is a "special LOVE" for OTHER BELIEVERS [i.e., NOT UNBELIEVERS] based on the SACRIFICIAL love of the Lord Jesus Christ...for He said in the very SAME VERSE [i.e., John 13:34]: "...That ye love ONE ANOTHER..." WHY did He say this? He said this for the following REASON--->so that "By THIS shall ALL MEN KNOW that ye are My DISCIPLES [i.e., BELIEVERS], if ye have love ONE to ANOTHER" [John 13:34, 35].
Christians' LOVE and SUPPORT for "one another" enable them to SURVIVE in a HOSTILE "world." As Jesus was the EMBODIMENT of God's LOVE...so NOW each DISCIPLE should EMBODY Christ's for ONE ANOTHER...as a SIGN to "the HOSTILE world" [UNBELIEVERS] and to OTHER believers as well...for it is written: "We know that we have passed from DEATH unto LIFE, BECAUSE we LOVE the BRETHREN. He that LOVETH NOT his BROTHER (i.e., fellow BELIEVER) abideth in DEATH" [1 John 14]. BTW...[John 15:12] says the SAME thing!
BOTTOM-LINE: NONE of the verses that you have submitted support your contention at all...and is prima facie evidence that you do NOT UNDERSTAND the Scriptures and are in DARKNESS for your REJECTION that Jesus Christ is GOD ALMIGHTY and the world's ONLY SAVIOUR. For that you WILL PERISH unless you REPENT and come to Him in FAITH believing.
Marchello
Originally posted by MarchelloAll men are children of God, you would limit the love you show to believers only? This was not Christ's example, nor what he taught his disciples, and not in any manner Christian. Stop looking for Biblical rationale for hate and start paying attention to the fact that its message is one of love. Oh, and BTW, brothers and sisters are references to the human family not just believers.
*["The overall message of Christ, taken as a whole, as presented in the Bible, refutes your behavior as you have presented on KMC. Christ's manner of love and your manner are two different things..."]***Your post CONFIRMS the fact that you KNOW NOT the Scriptures nor UNDERSTAND them...to wit: In [John 13:34] we are told that the 11 disciples would survive in His absence by OBEYING His example of LOVE. This COMMANDMENT is NEW...in that it is a "special LOVE" for OTHER BELIEVERS...based on the SACRIFICIAL love of Jesus. Let me REPEAT that for you "Bishop' Regret...it is a "special LOVE" for OTHER BELIEVERS [i.e., NOT UNBELIEVERS] based on the SACRIFICIAL love of the Lord Jesus Christ...for He said in the very SAME VERSE [i.e., John 13:34]: "...That ye love ONE ANOTHER..." WHY did He say this? He said this for the following REASON--->so that "By THIS shall ALL MEN KNOW that ye are My DISCIPLES [i.e., BELIEVERS], if ye have love ONE to ANOTHER" [John 13:34, 35].
Christians' LOVE and SUPPORT for "one another" enable them to SURVIVE in a HOSTILE "world." As Jesus was the EMBODIMENT of God's LOVE...so NOW each DISCIPLE should EMBODY Christ's for ONE ANOTHER...as a SIGN to "the HOSTILE world" [UNBELIEVERS] and to OTHER believers as well...for it is written: "We know that we have passed from DEATH unto LIFE, BECAUSE we LOVE the BRETHREN. He that LOVETH NOT his BROTHER (i.e., fellow BELIEVER) abideth in DEATH" [1 John 14]. BTW...[John 15:12] says the SAME thing!
BOTTOM-LINE: NONE of the verses that you have submitted support your contention at all...and is prima facie evidence that you do NOT UNDERSTAND the Scriptures and are in DARKNESS for your REJECTION that Jesus Christ is GOD ALMIGHTY and the world's ONLY SAVIOUR. For that you WILL PERISH unless you REPENT and come to Him in FAITH believing.
Marchello
Originally posted by Regret
All men are children of God, you would limit the love you show to believers only? This was not Christ's example, nor what he taught his disciples, and not in any manner Christian. Stop looking for Biblical rationale for hate and start paying attention to the fact that its message is one of love. Oh, and BTW, brothers and sisters are references to the human family not just believers.
Listen to yourself. Youre saying that Christians are supposed to spread the love and good news to non-Christians (which we do, by the way), and yet when we try to do that in the forums, you guys straight up reject our message and discredit whatever proof we have.
Christians have been persecuted and/or even killed for trying to spread the word, so don't you dare say that we do not make an effort to reach out to the non-Christian society.
Christians are supposed to spread the love and good word, but they're not meant to be obnoxious, objectionable little shits while they're doing it. That's where you're going wrong.
You, meanwhile, compare atheists to Hitler and blame evolution on the Hollocaust. So much for love, you self-rightous little turd.
Originally posted by Gregory
Christians are supposed to spread the love and good word, but they're not meant to be obnoxious, objectionable little shits while they're doing it. That's where you're going wrong.You, meanwhile, compare atheists to Hitler and blame evolution on the Hollocaust. So much for love, you self-rightous little turd.
Originally posted by Up In FlamesI consider myself a Christian. Read the posts I am responding to before attacking me. Marchello has stated that Christians should love each other more than they do "unbelievers", I believe the Bible states you should love all people equally, and in the same manner, Christians and "unbelievers."
Listen to yourself. Youre saying that Christians are supposed to spread the love and good news to non-Christians (which we do, by the way), and yet when we try to do that in the forums, you guys straight up reject our message and discredit whatever proof we have.Christians have been persecuted and/or even killed for trying to spread the word, so don't you dare say that we do not make an effort to reach out to the non-Christian society.
Although, for Marchello, I am not a Christian, as I am a Mormon.
What's the last name of Jesus?
Not sure if it really matters, if he had a last name, it would show male linerage, as the last name was used in the old testament to demonstrate the bloodline of the males in the family, since Jesus was from a spiritual male being, the Holy Spirit, he couldn't have a last name. What do you all think?
Re: What's the last name of Jesus?
Originally posted by Oncewhite
Not sure if it really matters, if he had a last name, it would show male linerage, as the last name was used in the old testament to demonstrate the bloodline of the males in the family, since Jesus was from a spiritual male being, the Holy Spirit, he couldn't have a last name. What do you all think?
Sanchez
That would be like HEY-zeus Shanchez, they do the same thing to Mohomed, I mean, if a person is very important, try not to name every other child after him, b/c as I learned as a lil girl, if you call a name too much, you wear the name out, and it loses substance...i think the Jews know this, and the true name of G-d is never spoken, making it Holy or annointed/seperated.
I've known a few online users who would talk about some Moor-Templish type person who names himself Yah or Yahweh, will put "bin" or "ben" in the middle...so it's like Yosef ben Yah or something like that, which means Joseph of God...so, they are a hoot as well.
Re: What's the last name of Jesus?
Originally posted by Oncewhite
Not sure if it really matters, if he had a last name, it would show male linerage, as the last name was used in the old testament to demonstrate the bloodline of the males in the family, since Jesus was from a spiritual male being, the Holy Spirit, he couldn't have a last name. What do you all think?
I think that Jesus was not born of a "spiritual male". Jesus had a mother and a father, just like you and I. Why do you believe the bible?
Re: Re: What's the last name of Jesus?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think that Jesus was not born of a "spiritual male". Jesus had a mother and a father, just like you and I. Why do you believe the bible?
The same reason why some believe in the three leaf clover...why do u feel the need to ridicule others for their own beliefs?