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Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Just as a side note anyway, a day is measured by the time it takes the planet to rotate on its axis and not 24 hours. That just happens to be a day for us, so is God on a planet?

Devil King Restricted

But did GOD not plan it so? That's why HE instituted day light savings...so we could better understand HIS intentions.

Ignore the mathematical remainders.

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by peejayd
* of course... have you?

So if you have read the original text of the Bible then you must know that words translated from Hebrew to English that there are words in Hebrew that do not directly translate to English. So they must “interpret” the meaning of the word to an English equivalent.

ragesRemorse Senior Member

Originally posted by shaber
And some Jews hold that Jesus was an outright fraud ie not even a prophet.

thats just because they killed him 😉

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
thats just because they killed him 😉

I thought it was the Romans? 😉

anaconda Jukebox

actually it was the author(s) of the bible(NT)

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by anaconda
actually it was the author(s) of the bible(NT)

That was your 666th post . . .

anaconda Jukebox

That was your 666th post . . .

so 666 is nothing more than a number, important to fools only

Deja~vu Dreamer

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That was your 666th post . . .

😱

OMG, it's true!

peejayd Senior Member

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Small problem with that, one the book is written by man and man uses the term years and what makes up years? The answer would be days, hours, minutes and all that jive. So you are saying that God created the universe in 6 thousand years? How does man know how long a year is for God, did they look at God’s wrist watch? If they were not given an exact time by God then it is man trying to understand what God said so it is not the actual time but man giving his opinion on it. Again you say that I need to read the Bible, I have many times but it is your argument that is flawed and you keep using that same reason if someone doesn’t agree with you.

* the passage only means that God is not within the scope of time... one day or one thousand years or even eternity does not affect God...

* if you read the 1st chapter of Genesis in the first place, you will understand that the 7 days of creation is not literal 24-hour day... Genesis 1:14-19, on the "4th day", that's the time God divided day from night & vice-versa...

* i expect someone who does not believe in the Bible to disagree... but i'm just trying to answer and clarify some things not explained by many religious denominations nowadays...

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by peejayd
* the passage only means that God is not within the scope of time... one day or one thousand years or even eternity does not affect God...
* if you read the 1st chapter of Genesis in the first place, you will understand that the 7 days of creation is not literal 24-hour day... Genesis 1:14-19, on the "4th day", that's the time God divided day from night & vice-versa...
* i expect someone who does not believe in the Bible to disagree... but i'm just trying to answer and clarify some things not explained by many religious denominations nowadays...

Were you not the one that told me to just read the Bible as is and not to interpret it? Why do you think I have not read the Bible, I have told you a myriad of times that I have. The way that I read it is that God created day and night on the first day.

4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

You would think that someone that doesn't believe would disagree but even those that do believe disagree with you.

peejayd Senior Member

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Were you not the one that told me to just read the Bible as is and not to interpret it? Why do you think I have not read the Bible, I have told you a myriad of times that I have. The way that I read it is that God created day and night on the first day.
4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
You would think that someone that doesn't believe would disagree but even those that do believe disagree with you.

* your point well taken... that is a good assessment... however, let us try to understand/analyze further the context of those verses without interpreting it by our own...

" And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day."
Genesis 1:3-5

* there was light called Day, and there was darkness called Night... but it was only the division of light and darkness... the first day of creation...

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made the two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day."
Genesis 1:14-19

* in the fourth day of creation, it was specifically written that this firmament to divide day and night is for the signs, seasons, days and years... a greater light which is the sun in the day and a lesser light which the moon in the night...

* i hope you see my point... 🙂

Deja~vu Dreamer

decided not to talk about it..

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by peejayd
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made the two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day."
Genesis 1:14-19
* in the fourth day of creation, it was specifically written that this firmament to divide day and night is for the signs, seasons, days and years... a greater light which is the sun in the day and a lesser light which the moon in the night...

Doesn't actually say sun or moon. You're interpreting.

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doesn't actually say sun or moon. You're interpreting.

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Originally posted by Deja~vu
decided not to talk about it..

There is a problem with your assumption, on the first day God made the Day and Night, on the fourth day he divided the light to make the stars for the night and the light for the day. This was to separate the night from the day by giving light to the night so that there will be seasons and days but he already created the Day and the Night.

vandalworks Senior Member

jesus christ is fictional. he was actually based on a couple of people from the celtic religion to get the celts won over by some leader in italy. i've read that he actually created the first bible too. well, commissioned it.

peejayd Senior Member

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doesn't actually say sun or moon. You're interpreting.

* i did not... i understood and analyzed the verse... oh well... okay... so, it's just a greater light and a lesser light... 😛

Originally posted by Da Pittman
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There is a problem with your assumption, on the first day God made the Day and Night, on the fourth day he divided the light to make the stars for the night and the light for the day. This was to separate the night from the day by giving light to the night so that there will be seasons and days but he already created the Day and the Night.

* it's not an assumption, my friend... the 1st day had the division of light and darkness... the 4th day had the division of day and night specifically... 🙂

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by peejayd
* i did not... i understood and analyzed the verse... oh well... okay... so, it's just a greater light and a lesser light... 😛
* it's not an assumption, my friend... the 1st day had the division of light and darkness... the 4th day had the division of day and night specifically... 🙂

No, you are not reading it and you are making your own assumptions. Firsts day of creation Day and Night, please read your own Bible. You have told me to read it do you not read your own Bible? On the 4th day he made Day and Night as WE know it, but Day and Night were all ready created. If he did not create the Day and the Night how could there be
"5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. "

You need to read this again

14: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16: And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17: And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18: And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

You wanted me to read your Bible I’ve told you that I have, I’m even using your own Bible in this debate and you can’t even comprehend its own text. You are such a hypocrite, you tell people not to interpret the Bible and read it as it is written by when you are faced with something the counters it you go right ahead and make your own interpretation. So my “friend” STFU

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

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Grand_Moff_Gav Senior Member

What is being argued here?

That the Bible says God created the Day and the Night on the first day?

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Now, thats that settled.

This is why Bibles should really be kept in the hands of the Educated Priests...but thats just me baiting the Evans....