Originally posted by Da Pittman
You are not making any scene, so you are saying that the Bible now contradicts PI and gravity???
How come? When people die and get resurrected again in heaven you won't go hungry or thirst anymore. What Jesus said is not literal... Not all the words in the bible is literal! 😄
Jesue the Christ of the Christian religion is the false savior all the Hebrew prophets and the apostles of the real Hebrew Messiah warned you was coming and would deceived the whole world!
http://www.yahweh.com/booklets/Whois/Whois.htm
Okieshowedem
Originally posted by Okieshowedem
Jesue the Christ of the Christian religion is the false savior all the Hebrew prophets and the apostles of the real Hebrew Messiah warned you was coming and would deceived the whole world!http://www.yahweh.com/booklets/Whois/Whois.htm
Okieshowedem
There is nothing to be saved from in the first place.
Originally posted by Okieshowedem
Jesue the Christ of the Christian religion is the false savior all the Hebrew prophets and the apostles of the real Hebrew Messiah warned you was coming and would deceived the whole world!http://www.yahweh.com/booklets/Whois/Whois.htm
Okieshowedem
I wouldn't believe anything from the Catholic church the great harlet.
Yeshua (Jesus) is from Yoshua (Joshuah) which is from YHWH which is God personal name. Jesus is the english version of Yeshua and that's a know fact from scholars who know the Hebrew and Greek language.
Originally posted by Gregory
According to the Bible, it's pretty clear that Christ and God were distinct entities. But that would mean that Christianity had two gods--God and Jesus. And the early Christian leaders desperately didn't want to be viewed as a polytheistic religion, so they came up with the idea of the Trinity, which says that, okay, there's the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but they're really one and the same, right? The end result, of course, is that when you read the Bible, Jesus sometimes seems downright schizophrenic ("My God My God why hast though forsaken me?"😉
Well the gospel of John says the following.No one has seen the father even the son,but being close to the father we know what he is like.It
was believed that the logos(divine wisdom) lived in Jesus and he was his mouthpiece (nabhi) From this Hebrew word we get the word prophet.It has a meaning more then , one who predicts the future.
Originally posted by the Darkone
I wouldn't believe anything from the Catholic church the great harlet.Yeshua (Jesus) is from Yoshua (Joshuah) which is from YHWH which is God personal name. Jesus is the english version of Yeshua and that's a know fact from scholars who know the Hebrew and Greek language.
isnt yeshua more like one who praises yahweh? oh well yahweh itself come from hawwa, which is eve's hebrew/arabic name.
If Jesus did exsist,the truth is we don't know really anything about him.Are not a lot anyway.
I believe the best source for finding anything on a real Jesus is probably in the work of Origen.
Celsus's criticism of Christianity is almost completely stored in Origens work.
We really don't know what Celsus' reference material is, but it seems to be in accordance,to a degree with what Origens knows as well.
Celsus tells us that Jesus' mother was was kicked out of her own home for adultry,and that the father of Jesus was a soldier named Panthera.
Celsus makes the remark that Jesus went into Egypt for work,and when he came out he took the knowledge of the Egyptians and applied it to himself.
When you look at the Talmud it seems to be in agreement because it tells of Yeshua ben Pantera.
It might be possible,though a stretch of belief that the Talmud might have taken this straight from Celsus' writing (through Origen) because the work of Celsus predates the Talmud by about 300 years.
Our they could both be reffering to writings that we don't know of today,though most likely I would say it was probably passed down through oral tradition.
A lot of people believe that the word Panthera is a mis translation of Parthenos (virgin).
Originally posted by Devil King
Jesus and religion in general are rip offs of lots of other religions.
No they are not rip offs of other religions. If you go back and read the Bible it tells you the same thing throughout the entire thing. "That Gods son will come." The religion never changed when Jesus came really.
Originally posted by Tonks
No they are not rip offs of other religions. If you go back and read the Bible it tells you the same thing throughout the entire thing. "That Gods son will come." The religion never changed when Jesus came really.
And the Qu'ran claims that all prophets before Mohammed received only partial revelations, thus making Christianity a proto-Islamic faith.
Guess you will be converting soon, hmmm? Given that the words of religious books are that important.
Originally posted by Tonks
No they are not rip offs of other religions. If you go back and read the Bible it tells you the same thing throughout the entire thing. "That Gods son will come." The religion never changed when Jesus came really.
The bible itself changed tremendously from beginning to end and a dozen times through out. Too bad that right after god's son came he totally threw the religion of the old testament on it's ear and then condensed 10 old commandments into 1 new golden rule. Any one who claims that the bible says the same thing with any consistancy from beginning to end is either obtuse or a liar when they say they're read it.
To say the religion never changed after Jesus appeared on the scene is just wrong. You do realize they changed the name from Judaism to Christianity, right? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Abraham, David, Moses and the Hebrews were all Jewish.