Jesus Christ

^ But it's true..There were a few hundred texts at the time when gathered by Constantines Bishop. He picked only 4 gospels to fit what the agenda was...And what was the true agenda?..Pulling everybody together to form a huge empire...How to do it?..Conformity, blending of both pagan and some docterines to unite under a NEW faith. Then have a ruling power over those in the new faith..ie one that speaks for Jesus himself...Ie...enter the Popes..."Gods words on earth." VICARIUS FILII DEI...And written was written on the Popes head piece..Which the protestant church grew out of....and also "Solas Scripturis" (sp?)..Scripture alone...

DID, is past tense. He DOES exist is eternal. For he is the great IAM now and forevermore, eternal. Working as our great HIGH PRIEST in the heavenly sanctuary for the salvation of men, when he stands up and lays off his priestly robes, he will be coming as KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS. Then probation will have closed for every case of man. His reward is with him. Isaiah 40:10 Rev 22:12

Hebrews 2:17; 3:1; 4:14,15; 5:1,5,10; 6:20; 7:1,26; 8:1,3; 9:7,11,25; 10:21; 13:11.

PRAISE THE LORD !!!

The assertion that Jesus Christ is a myth can be proved not only through the works of dissenters and "pagans" who knew the truth - and who were viciously refuted or murdered for their battle against the Christian priests and "Church Fathers" fooling the masses with their fictions - but also through the very statements of the Christians themselves, who continuously disclose that they knew Jesus Christ was a myth founded upon more ancient deities located throughout the known ancient world. In fact, Pope Leo X, privy to the truth because of his high rank, made this curious declaration,"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" As Wheless says, "The proofs of my indictment are marvelously easy."

http://www.christianmyth.com/JesusHistory.htm

And many other sources....It's only public knowledge.

oh I see the one who quotes the script is back
"even in death he quotes the scripts"

Originally posted by svnthdysthsbbth
Then probation will have closed for every case of man. His reward is with him.

The teaching of probation is not in scripture, it's a doctrine.

Topic: Jesus is God? ... NO! 😊

Their was some christian sects that didn't even have Jesus in them.It's pretty sad when you study the history of hit.You can even find Jesus in the old testement as another character.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
Sort of, we should explain to non-christians how it should be, and what we believe they are wrong with. It is your choice if you agree after all we have told and explained as much as possible, but if you don't then well there isn't much we can do but pray.

Then it's my obilgation to tell you that you have your religon all wrong my friend.

Originally posted by mr.smiley
Then it's my obilgation to tell you that you have your religon all wrong my friend.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yeah, what heard was the their were also 2 parts or an outer and inner meaning also...referred to as the "Inner Mysteries"..The outer meanings were kinda like for those who didn't quite understand yet, but the "Mystery" was the inner knowledge.

Paul also refers to the "Inner Mysteries" of Christ in scripture, I think.

Yep..."Inner Mysteries of Christ" are in scripture...and gnostic also.

But their are many dedicated Christians who argue with eachother.It doesn't matter what you belive and how good it is,someone will always find fault with it and say it's wrong.

One sick movie!

Originally posted by mr.smiley
But their are many dedicated Christians who argue with eachother.It doesn't matter what you belive and how good it is,someone will always find fault with it and say it's wrong.

That is true, but nobody knows more than they are told, and what we are told comes from the Bible, so christians shouldn't tell themselves wrong but others, and try and get through to them.

saw a program about this, and it finds that mary, jesus' mother, was probably raped when she was 13/14. she gave birth to a child and joseph was to have helped her and stood by her. so i think he did exist.... about his miracles i'm not so easy mislead.

Wow, not just whether or not he existed as he is in the Bible, but whether he existed at all?!?!

Enough was written about him, sometimes (though not often) in non-christian sources, that I think we can say a Jesus of Nazareth existed. The massive number of suspicious influences upon Christianity leads me to believe Jesus was nothing like what Christians imagine now, but trying to prove that he didn't exist is probably a fruitless endeavor that could never be credibly backed, even if it turns out its true.

If I'm not mistaken, we have saved documents of those who went to their deaths for claiming they saw Jesus resurrected (those that were at the tomb when he came out) when it wasn't to their advantage to claim it unless they had actually seen it. Scholars or priests who are aware of the questions against Christianity's validity often point to this as one of their main proofs, since trying to cite the Gospels as firsthand accounts can be shot down quite quickly. I read this in a Christian book that tries to verify and validate the Cathloic faith, but unfortunately I can't credit the source since I don't remember the name.

The Catholics have forged so many documents it's hard to realy rely on anything they said.

Good point smiley, and I wouldn't argue. But at the same time, I still think saying Jesus didn't exist is a bit of a stretch. Wildly change a historical character to fit their needs? Sure. But create him from nothing? Doubtful, even from the Catholic Church. Even if it's true, finding anything that proves it beyond mere speculation would be harder than finding things that verify that he did in fact exist.

I don't know.I think it's more symbolic.Look at the book of Exodus.Exodus translates as "the way out".In the book of Exodus we have Moses and the prophet Joseph Ben Nun.When translating the Bible from Hebrew to greek and such you'll notice the name Joseph Ben Nun translates as the name Jesus son of the fish.Moses frees his people but it is Joseph (Jesus) who finishes the job.Hints exodus the way out.It is Jesus his shows his people the way out of suffering,the way of exodus.

This is just one example of how the story of Jesus already exisisted.He also existed in the form of osiris,and Dionysus.In this sense I don't think they created him from nothing but as many have already written,he was created from pre existing myths and changed into a Christian hero.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

^ yep.

Yeah it's joshua not joseph.I don't know why I always confuse those names.