Originally posted by sonnet
Sorry D, but that is a load of crap for there are scriptures where Paul gave honour to women in his letters for the good work they were doing in the churches and for the gospel and that he looked up to them. He also asked the people to treat them well and with respect.
But not equal...More subservient...woman are to hold silent, cant preach...
Though from his teachings about being chaste from woman..came later church teachings that built upon it...
Originally posted by sonnetSo you believe in free will under a precognitive omniscient infallible god even though free will is mutually exclusive to precognitive omniscience in combination with infallibility?
The Bible says everything comes from God. Lets look at how evil first came into the world.... by a heavenly angel ,created by God, that got greedy and rebelled against authority (that reminds us a lot of many people's reaction to God today) and became evil known as Satan. If you have a child who to your expectancy is perfect and normal and later in life turns out to be a drug addict, or murderer or just a dont care bum, does that mean you created that end product in your womb or did that happen by the choices the child made? The child still came from you. So I guess you are then responsible for a socialy unacceptable person????
Exactly X there was a thread that stated the exact same thing....
Originally posted by debbiejo
But not equal...More subservient...woman are to hold silent, cant preach...Though from his teachings about being chaste from woman..came later church teachings that built upon it...
Originally posted by sonnet
God did not create adam and eve equal - he created Eve as a help for Adam, to be his companion because he was alone. So is you want to rebel against Paul, then you are also doing so against God.
Help mate meant companion.....
And Paul didn't teach what Jesus taught...He also went againt OT teachings and the Jews hate him for it also...Paul was a gnostic...really.
Originally posted by sonnet
Please help this person before she hurts herself!!!!!
😂 ..It was a brain expander alright.....but xmarks a guy....
Originally posted by debbiejoDebbie my dear, I'm all things to all people. I am the morning and the evening star. The Alpha and the Omega. The great and powerful Oz.
😂 ..It was a brain expander alright.....but xmarks a guy....
I don't see why followers of monotheistic supposedly omniscient and omnipotent gods refuse to take the time to interpret and answer conceptual questions.
I guess it's easier to pay no heed to the man behind the curtain and play in Munchkinland.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Debbie my dear, I'm all things to all people. I am the morning and the evening star. The Alpha and the Omega. The great and powerful Oz.I don't see why followers of monotheistic supposedly omniscient and omnipotent gods refuse to take the time to interpret and answer conceptual questions.
I guess it's easier to pay no heed to the man behind the curtain and play in Munchkinland.
😂 .....OH, it's you....didn't recognize your voice...the evening and morning star????hahahahah...That would make you... 😱
I belive that jesus is the christ, and i will have eternal life in him.... i don´t know if it was real english, because i´m from germany.. 😉
but what i want to say is, that jesus is for me the lord, i tried to live with satanic rubbish and other religions but i recognized that just jesus gives me what i need, i don´t need the church or something like that, i just need god, jesus and the holy spirit. <--- my opinion!!!
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Re: Did Jesus really exist?
Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Here's a very interesting article that questions whether the historical Jesus ever existed.http://www.jdstone.org/truth/files/j_myth.html
I've read it through and it really makes me ponder -- Is Jesus a collaborated myth from various pagan beliefs?
I believe Jesus exists. A lot of Atheists and Scientist who aren't Christians will tell you Jesus existed.
Like Jesus there are even cities and areas mentioned in the Bible which Historians, scientists and Atheist said didn't exist. They then check (sometimes) Roman documents, which confirm its existence. Failing that these archaeologists go to where they believe these cities might have been, perform excavations and found evidence of cities that were once there.......
The same can be said for Jesus. By looking at Roman documents and other historical features, many historians will say a bloke called Jesus existed around the time 4 BC - 30 something AD. The real question is if you believe this Jesus bloke was what he said he was..............