Phoenix Vs. anyone

Started by Lord S21 pages

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Lord S you've misunderstood. Phoenixes role in Galactus' creation was depicted in Xmen Adventures issue 12 about a year ago. The events from this series made it into the official handbook making it canon. Galactus' old origin has been retconned its as simple as that.
Please provide some sort of proof of this...cause all of my research points to three different 13-part 'X-Men Adventures' series, from the 90's. All of which are based on the animated series, and not canon.

So either you're reading reprints released last year, or you're just trying to bullshit everyone.

Originally posted by armandovalles

i dont know who that could be but i know for sure thats not LT for alot of reasons:

-LT is gold, not silver
-LT has 3 faces
-LT were's a purple hood
-LT has shining stars on his chest, shoulders, and as his eyes
-LT is like 5 times the size of Eternity and Infinity, and here he's shown to be about the same size


-The colors are not original and it's a bad pic-scan.
-LT is shown from behind here...where he has no face!
-You could perhaps see his left face but its FULLY COVERED by the hood, just like his right face is HALF COVERED and his front face UNCOVERED...didn't you ever notice that???
-You can't see the shining "whatevers" because you see him from BEHIND!
-LT, like every other abstract, can have any desired size.
In this special case all of them have the same miniature size to illustrate the lesser status they have all in common in comparison to Phoenix!

It IS LT...believe me!

Originally posted by Lord S
Please provide some sort of proof of this...cause all of my research points to three different 13-part 'X-Men Adventures' series, from the 90's. All of which are based on the animated series, and not canon.

So either you're reading reprints released last year, or you're just trying to bullshit everyone.

Ive given you an issue number (Xmen Adventures 12) and as i dont actually posess the comic that will have to do. It depicts the phoenix saving the dying Galan and allowing him to bond with the cosmic egg. Those events are clearly depicted in the 2005 F4 Handbook making that event canon. The Hbooks after all merely refer to events which have happened in the comic books, they arent made up out of thin air Lord S come on. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ive given you an issue number (Xmen Adventures 12) and as i dont actually posess the comic that will have to do. It depicts the phoenix saving the dying Galan and allowing him to bond with the cosmic egg. Those events are clearly depicted in the 2005 F4 Handbook making that event canon. The Hbooks after all merely refer to events which have happened in the comic books, they arent made up out of thin air Lord S come on. 😉
So that issue is canon, huh? We don't know where this issue is...if it even exists...if it's even an X-title. But it's canon? Thanos #3 is canon, as it clearly depicts Eternity having a direct hand in the transformation of Galan to Galactus...why brush it off? Because some bio, based off of suspect events that can't even be confirmed at this time, tells you a different story?

I even went to the trouble of checking the Master List at marvunapp.com, and Galactus has only shown up in a few X-titles, none of which are X-Men Adventures...which I've stated before are merely comicbook versions of the 90's animated series.

I have laid my cards out on the table and provided clear evidence...the evidence you've provided is ambiguous, at best.

Originally posted by Lord S
So that issue is canon, huh? We don't know where this issue is...if it even exists...if it's even an X-title. But it's canon? Thanos #3 is canon, as it clearly depicts Eternity having a direct hand in the transformation of Galan to Galactus...why brush it off? Because some bio, based off of suspect events that can't even be confirmed at this time, tells you a different story?

I even went to the trouble of checking the Master List at marvunapp.com, and Galactus has only shown up in a few X-titles, none of which are X-Men Adventures...which I've stated before are merely comicbook versions of the 90's animated series.

I have laid my cards out on the table and provided clear evidence...the evidence you've provided is ambiguous, at best.

Not in the slightest Lord S. We know as per current continuity as supported in recent issues of F4 and by New Xmen and even Xmen The end that Phoenix as per current continuity is responsible for the making of creation and the entire creation cycle itself. This i have proved in the past and supported with scans. That is not in debate. You now have an official handbook bio (which itself refers to events depicted in the comics) telling you that Galactus came into existence because of phoenix and you're disputing it because i dont posess the comic to show you a scan from it. Thats absurd LS. Its all their in the handbook which itself is just retelling comic book events. I have told you what comic its from and thats enough.

Originally posted by Lord S
So that issue is canon, huh? We don't know where this issue is...if it even exists...if it's even an X-title. But it's canon? Thanos #3 is canon, as it clearly depicts Eternity having a direct hand in the transformation of Galan to Galactus...why brush it off? Because some bio, based off of suspect events that can't even be confirmed at this time, tells you a different story?[/quopte] Because the bio is more recent.

Handbooks are an acceptable source of information. Since it's in the avengers handbook that we learn that a leauge of heroes from a Divergent Cosmos. . makes JLA/A is cannon

[QUOTE=4993376]Originally posted by Lord S
I have laid my cards out on the table and provided clear evidence...the evidence you've provided is ambiguous, at best.

Only because you don't want to accept it.

You actually haven't given a valid reason why the handbooks should be discarded.

"Because they are supposed to be based on events from the comics" is an opinion statment.

As

"Because events from the comic books are supposed to be based on Bios" is just as valid an argument.

Heres a lil present LS:

Fantastic Four #522 March 2005. Enjoy 😱

Well Mr. Fantastic, you can call it the big bang if you want. I think I'll call it...the Eternity Force.

Originally posted by Beyonder
Well Mr. Fantastic, you can call it the big bang if you want. I think I'll call it...the Eternity Force.

Awwwww aint Eternity just the cutest. If you look carefully you can just make him out in the palm of Jeans hand. 😱 :

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Awwwww aint Eternity just the cutest. If you look carefully you can just make him out in the palm of Jeans hand. 😱 :

I don't see Eternity, do you?

Originally posted by Beyonder
I don't see Eternity, do you?

Thats the point 😱 He's relatively insignificant 🙁

Heres a close up of the 616 reality better known as Eternity 🙂 :

Eternity should thank Cyclops for being such a stud. Otherwise he'd be non-existent 😱 :

Hmm . . . there is a vauge outline . . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hmm . . . there is a vauge outline . . .

😂

What Beyonders forgotten is that the Eternity humanoid figure is just an M-body created by Anthromorpho (something he does for all the abstracts) so that he can have a physical presence within the universe. Otherwise its just what you see in Jeans palm 😱

🙂

Oh yes, have we met?

Originally posted by Beyonder
🙂

😉 😂

Is she wearing a galactus mask or does galactus now have breasts and is now a phoenix?

Just in case you missed it yesterday LS

Originally posted by Creshosk
Only because you don't want to accept it.

You actually haven't given a valid reason why the handbooks should be discarded.

"Because they are [b]supposed to be based on events from the comics" is an opinion statment.

As

"Because events from the comic books are supposed to be based on Bios" is just as valid an argument. [/B]

Oh get off it...it's common sense that if something didn't happen in a comic book, then it shouldn't be written in a bio or handbook. Ie. Apocalypse and his 'unlimited strength' and 'ability to grant himself any power he chooses'.

As far as your whining on the Phoenix is concerned, new information automatically supercedes old. Agreed? If it was ever shown in any comic book that Phoenix Force had a direct hand in creating Galactus, and that after the event's in Thanos #3, then I'll accept it. The mysterious issue seems to be MIA.

As for GS' scan of FF 522...I'm sorry, Reed Richards using the words 'Phoenix Force' means nothing...it's just a general statement. It's just the writer leapfrogging over Eternity and going straight to the PF. But it's not the proper thing to do...like crediting one's parents directly for the success of their child...totally ignoring the hard work of the child. I acknowledge the fact that the Phoenix Force had a direct hand in creating Eternity, but Eternity DIRECTLY transformed Galan into Galactus...and I have displayed the proof to back it up.

Well, I tend to believe GS, I don't see any reason for him to lie.

But, when has X-men Adventures ever been canon?