maul vs. windu, no lightsabers

rules are simple, fist and force only
keep in mind that maul's only purpose is a martial tool and windu is a militaristic mastermind. tell me what you think and why

arena setup: straight forward, large arena, no debris or place to hide.

the reason i asked is because i wasn't completely sure
maul has him on speed(and maybe even strength), but windu definately has the force on his side

It sounds like you have the fight already decided, then. If this is a battle of the Force, I would have to infer that Mace would win this, though we have seen nothing that has displayed him powerful in the Force, it does make sense to say that he was second to Yoda, and would thusly have some Force-power to back that up.

In a "fist-fight", Maul would win. He's more agile, faster, and more skilled at martial arts.

So. Erm. Mace.

Looking at how Mace was able to tear apart dozens and dozens of super battle droids with his fist, I think he wins.

mace isn't neccisarily way more powerful in the force, thats not what i meant, go by what you think not whatever stupid thing i said

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Looking at how Mace was able to tear apart dozens and dozens of super battle droids with his fist, I think he wins.

You have GOT to be kidding me...he DID?

clone wars cartoon, powned them super fast then used all the spare bolts like bullets to destroy the other ones

it was awesome

I root for Mace on this one.

Both were second out of all in their respectable Orders, though second out of 10,000 is more impressive than second out of two.

All Jedi are trained in martial arts, even if they are not all 'the best of the best' when it comes to 'Jedi fu.' Maul was undoubtedly trained in unarmed combat. However, Mace has far more experience, and strikes me as the stronger and faster opponent.

jujitsu jedi

*shrug*

I found a list of martial arts on the Completely Unofficial Star Wars Encyclopedia, I shall have to look up which ones the Jedi are practitioners of.

The crowd cheers for mace!

Mace. Maul's faster, he's in better condition, he's the better unramed fighter, but when you add the Force in Mace has this. Maul's not bad in the Force but not espically strong in the Force, either. Mace isn't as good as Yoda but hes the second strongest Jedi with the Force.

What have we seen Maul do with the Force? Pick up some debris and throw it behind him and Force Push Padawan Obi. Mace? He Force Crushed Grievous. I would say Mace in Force and unarmed combat. I haven't seen that Clone Wars thing, but did he really beat an army of droids with his hands?

yea he killed them it was awsome probably 30+ were seen bieng killed

i think maul could take tpm mace and maybe even aotc but after what i saw in ROTS mace could take him then

Originally posted by darthsith19
Mace. Maul's faster, he's in better condition, he's the better unramed fighter, but when you add the Force in Mace has this. Maul's not bad in the Force but not espically strong in the Force, either. Mace isn't as good as Yoda but hes the second strongest Jedi with the Force.

Wait wait, what evidence do you have for Maul being faster, better conditioned, and the better unarmed fighter?

the fact that he wields a double sided lightsaber and fought two highly skilled jedi and lossed do to his own carelessness means he's excellent with the force but not so excellent in the common sense

WTF kind of logic is that?

Did you see Mace fight the same 2 Jedi? Did you see Mace wield a double-sided lightsaber? What does wielding a double-sided lightsaber have to do with "unarmed combat"? How does this show he's faster or better conditioned than Mace?

Originally posted by Illustrious
Wait wait, what evidence do you have for Maul being faster, better conditioned, and the better unarmed fighter?

Uh............Have you seen both of them fight??????

Lord Maul is blinding fast, an active assassin/enforcer, can do butterfly flips in mid fight to assist his combat, delivers multiple chin-kicks without getting his leg severed, can jump of a crotch-rocket going 200 without breaking his ankle, and his 2 opponents in TPM were younger and in better shape than Palpatine.