maul vs. windu, no lightsabers

You don't get it; Mace punched through durasteel-plated Super Battle Droids, completely obliterating several dozen of them as a last ditch effort. As in his fists were organic jackhammers.

it is a new move called force make hands invinceble. *supershadow write that on your sight*

Originally posted by Bespin Bart
I thought most Jedi were taught Teräs Käsi? 😕

You don't get it; Mace punched through durasteel-plated Super Battle Droids, completely obliterating several dozen of them as a last ditch effort. As in his fists were organic jackhammers.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Faster? I simply watched TPM and I also watched ROTS. Maul was faster.

Where ? He did more acrobatics but where he was "faster" ?

Better conditioned? Well, nothing from the movies confirms this, but Mace seems to mostly sit around in the Council most of the time and if you read Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter you will see that Maul regularly practices. The better unarmed fighter? Well, I meant if they couldn't use the Force either Maul'd win. Better unarmed fighter? Well, Sith in general are better fighters, Maul was trained to fight and he knows Teräs Käsi.

a)
What do you think where Mace did have his lightsaber skills from ? Sitting around all day and doing nothing ? May I remind you that he KICKED Sidious lightsaber RIGHT OUT OF HIS HANDS ?

b)
Teräs Käsi ? You should better not throw in stuff you don't have an idea about. "Teräs Käsi" is a martial art, yes. But NOT only do Jedi train that too (for example Anoon Bondara in ShadowHunter) fact ist that Mace used it too and - guess what - in the scene of the clone wars on Dantooine where he's fighting battle droids. Now you please tell me who is the better practicioneer of this art - Maul who can kick a Padawan, an old Jedi Master and a few droids or Mace who hammered through droids with his bare hands ?

On another note, although I did say Mace would win E.U. is considered official in this section since this is an E.U. section. With that being said Maul did fight Sidious in E.U. and nearly won. And by TPM he'd have gotten stronger, right? Right. Not saying he was ever stronger than Sidious or even stronger than Mace but he isn't just some weak dope.

Where did Maul nearly won ? Sidious nearly killed him and if you just quote Shadow Hunter you should have in mind that Maul would NEVER be able to defeat his master. He's Sidious ***** and nothing more.

And even if you want to go by the movies only: Mace > Sidious > Maul and that can be seen in the movies.

cough*sids faked it*cough*dont start argument*cough

cmon guys this really shouldn't be a serious argument, lets review:

Mace
-Jackhammers Super Battle Droids with fists
-master of the force
-and as far as condition let's consider Mace's age hes 60-63 yrs old (Sammie J's age) and bashing through droids, lets not think about what he could do if he was younger

Maul
-Great martial artist
-young
-average force user
-speed

ok well thats it, thats everyone's arguing broken down to the points

look at maul and loot at mace, the defense rest.............

Mace's character is closer to 50.

Mace is only 53 as of ROTS. And that's by no means lessening his conditioning. He was FAR superior to his younger forms in every aspect. Maul gets his horny head shoved up his arse in this one. Or he simply gets it crushed like a grapefruit. Your pick.

i think that if mace isnt allowed to use the force at all and that includes his force sence, than maul would win because he is naturally quite agile and swift whereas mace has to use the force to enhance his precision and speed etc. Whereas if mace is able to use the force to guide him through his punches, he will win.

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
And even if you want to go by the movies only: Mace > Sidious > Maul and that can be seen in the movies.

2 things, one they had lightsqabers, 2 its not that simple. you cant always judge like that. dooku could beat obi, anikin could beat dooku, and obi could beat anakin.

the reason i asked is because i wanted to know what you would happen in this fight(which some people have done a good job with). i already know what happens in the movies.

Originally posted by Darth Avis
cough*sids faked it*cough*dont start argument*cough

Best thread I've seen in a long while!! Killer explosive to the max!

Mace has this. It's called Shatterpoint, kids. With it, he can find Maul's weakness. This would be a bloody, long fight... but Mace is physically strong and he IS conditioned, and is arguably the best fighter in the Order (Yoda I imagine isn't much big on kung fu)

Mace is a brother from the gutter!

what i've come to: windu would win because of force crush.
if it was no force powers i'd bet on maul.
i thought windu would win, but i'm kinda upset to think that maul lost(he really made tpm worth watching more than once), hes just so cool

agreed?

Uh, no.

Mace has shown considerable unarmed fighting capability. He's thrown down with someone who would squash Maul like a bug. Go read SHatterpoint. Mace wins. Force crush or no force crush.

all maul is is a martial tool of the dark side, thats all he ever was. i think he is more advanced at fighting and killing with his body then windu. despite that, windu is way better at fighting and killing with the force then maul could ever be with just his fists.

thats all i can really say

Maul had considerable acrobatic feats to him. He was very strong naturally.

Well, this isn't about Maul's tactically pointless couple of flips and the fact that people like him; this is about him winning the fight. He won't. Mace will pound him into dust.

with force crush