The Official KMC "Conspiracy" Thread

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Right lots of evidence 🙄 , I just asked you to show me any wing debris and you still haven't posted, and a lamp post ripping the wings w/e.

Originally posted by Deano
eyewitnesses also say it looked like a missile

Originally posted by lord xyz
no, they say it SOUNDED like a missle.

Are you speaking on behalf of all witnesses 😕

The wings disintegrated WTF?

Blue Nocturne, you have put forth no evidence that a missle hit the pentagon. Various links and eyewitness accounts have been posted to show evidence that it was actually an airliner that hit the pentagon.

Until you have sufficient evidence that counters the substantial evidence that a airliner hit the pentagon you are just sounding like a conspiracey fruit-loop (much like Deano).

You say that eyewitnesses mean nothing, to an extent I agree, but multiple eyewitnesses cannot be ignored along with the plane debris and burned passengers that match the passenger list of flight 77.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Blue Nocturne, you have put forth no evidence that a missle hit the pentagon. Various links and eyewitness accounts have been posted to show evidence that it was actually an airliner that hit the pentagon.

Until you have sufficient evidence that counters the substantial evidence that a airliner hit the pentagon you are just sounding like a conspiracey fruit-loop (much like Deano).

You say that eyewitnesses mean nothing, to an extent I agree, but multiple eyewitnesses cannot be ignored along with the plane debris and burned passengers that match the passenger list of flight 77.

I never said a missle hit the pentagon.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I never said a missle hit the pentagon.

But you are saying that it was not flight 77. So what do you think hit the Pentagon?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
But you are saying that it was not flight 77. So what do you think hit the Pentagon?

I dunno what it was, I doubt it's a plane though.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I dunno what it was, I doubt it's a plane though.

Well, please extrapolate on what you think it might be if it were not a plane (despite that mass of evidence to prove otherwise).

Originally posted by KharmaDog
(despite that mass of evidence to prove otherwise).

Like the evidence for the wings?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Like the evidence for the wings?

An intelligent person looks at a massive amount of evidence and concedes it as the most likely possibility. The resulting destruction of the wings has been discussed.

Any further questions such "what happened to the wings" has been answered in this thread or can be simply answered here:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

You have yet to offer an alternative explanation. If your massive amount of research into this event has led you to believe that it was not a plane, then what does your intellect conclude it could have been?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
An intelligent person looks at a massive amount of evidence and concedes it as the most likely possibility. The resulting destruction of the wings has been discussed.

You have yet to offer an alternative explanation. If your massive amount of research into this event has led you to believe that it was not a plane, then what does your intellect conclude it could have been?

I don't have to provide an alternate explanation, there exsist no rule that says one must substitute one explanation for another.

And like I said where is the wing debris, what happened to the black box,Where are more tapes Washington D.C. is the most surveillance place on earth and these are the only tapes they can muster?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I don't have to provide an alternate explanation, there exsist no rule that says one must substitute one explanation for another.

No you don't, but if you cannot offer a reasonable alternative, perhaps it is because there is none.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And like I said where is the wing debris,

Did you even check out the link I posted? And what about the other debris spread about the crash?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
No you don't, but if you cannot offer a reasonable alternative, perhaps it is because there is none.

I'm not trying to convince you , if you believe it's aplane go ahead.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Did you even check out the link I posted? And what about the other debris spread about the crash?

I didn't find any mention of wings or the Black Box.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm not trying to convince you , if you believe it's aplane go ahead.

All available evidence suggests it was flight 77. I would like to know why you believe otherwise, and I am interested as to what you think it could have been.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I did,I didn't find any mention of wings.

Look closer, it's there.

if it was a plane it would of looked like this

2) Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?
As eyewitnesses described and photographs demonstrate, the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building; nonetheless, as described by The New York Times, the plane still hit not "just the ground floor" but between the first and second floors:

The Boeing 757 crashed into the outer edge of the building between the first and second floors, "at full power," Mr. Rumsfeld said. It penetrated three of the five concentric rings of the building.
Another account of the crash described:

The plane banked sharply and came in so low that it clipped light poles. It slammed into the side of the Pentagon at an estimated 350 miles per hour after first hitting the helipad. The plane penetrated the outer three rings of the building. The jet fuel exploded, which sent a fireball outward from the impact point. About 30 minutes after the crash, a cross-section of the building collapsed, but only after enough time had elapsed for rescue workers to evacuate all injured employees.
The fire was so hot that firefighters could not approach the impact point itself until approximately 1 P.M. The collapse and roof fires left the inner courtyard visible from outside through a gaping hole. The area hit by the plane was newly renovated and reinforced, while the areas surrounding the impact zone were closed in preparation for renovation, so the death toll could have been much higher if another area had been hit.

5) Can you explain what happened to the wings of the aircraft and why they caused no damage?
As the front of the Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, the outer portions of the wings likely snapped during the initial impact, then were pushed inward towards the fuselage and carried into the building's interior; the inner portions of the wings probably penetrated the Pentagon walls with the rest of the plane. Any sizable portions of the wings were destroyed in the explosion or the subsequent fire. Nonetheless, damage to the building caused by the plane's wings is plainly visible in photographs, such as the one below (note the blackened sections on both sides of the impact site):

Where are the imprints on that picture, if it was carried into the interior where is the debris and what happened to the tail?

Originally posted by Deano

if it was a plane it would of looked like this

Based on what knowledge? Perhaps if the plane hit the pentagon as if the building were on a runway that little flash display might mean something. Deano, you have said soooooo many stupid things in this thread anything else that you say should be ignored.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Where are the imprints on that picture, if it was carried into the interior where is the debris and what happened to the tail?

READ THE FRICKEN PAGE! Or read much of the other evidence put forth by others.

Also, to ask questions is fine, but also be willing to share some answers. What do you think might have hit the pentagon.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
READ THE FRICKEN PAGE! Or read much of the other evidence put forth by others.

Originally posted by KharmaDog

Also, to ask questions is fine, but also be willing to share some answers. What do you think might have hit the pentagon.

How can I share something I don't have, I don't have the answer, never claimed I did. I just don't think it was hit by flight 77.