Top 10 NBA players

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So you don't consider Kidd and Jefferson role players, but Shaq, Walker, Williams and etc. are? Yeah, that's a real fair arguement.

I'd consider Walker and Williams as role players. Shaq obviously is not.

in my opinion, jason kidd is still the best player on that nets team. you take a point guard that good out of that team, and they wont be a 3rd seed team. he rebounds as well many forwards, and his assists are sublime. hes added a three point shot since his earlier days, but i think hes starting to lose his speed. hes still that teams mvp though.

Kobe is at the top at #1. Also Joe Johnson is quite underrated. He just doesn't come on cable because he playsb for the hawks.

Originally posted by darth_royke
in my opinion, jason kidd is still the best player on that nets team. you take a point guard that good out of that team, and they wont be a 3rd seed team. he rebounds as well many forwards, and his assists are sublime. hes added a three point shot since his earlier days, but i think hes starting to lose his speed. hes still that teams mvp though.

😱 Now you've done it Royke. 😆

haha we'll see.... i stand by my opinion though. its all well and good having a top scorer on teh team... but he needs a good passer... which is why i veiw kobe as being a better player, he simplt doesnt have a point guard anything like jason kidd to get him the ball.

Originally posted by darth_royke
haha we'll see.... i stand by my opinion though. its all well and good having a top scorer on teh team... but he needs a good passer... which is why i veiw kobe as being a better player, he simplt doesnt have a point guard anything like jason kidd to get him the ball.

uh....darth rokye, i think its just just as easy to give vince a pass on a post up inbetween 2 people as it is to throw him an alley oop which is pretty damn easy. vince does not need a good passer.... sadly...having to mention this and point out YET AGAIN that most of vince's points come off iso plays which means all you do is gve him an easy pass on the block or on the perimeter and let him do his thing. if smush parker could shoot 3s as well as jason kidd, then there would be a difference for vince in a passing situation, but for vince scoring wise if u replace jason kidd with smush parker(which will never happen) then vince will play just as well as with smuch parker as he does with j-kidd. j-kidd should be credited for playing great with vince carter, not for being the reason for him playing great.

tanjot, may i be the first to say...

"stop talking out of vince carters arse"

you really are an idiot. not ALL of his points are from iso's, kidd is the best passers in the game, if he doesnt make the direct pass to carter its to a player who will from an easier position had it been most other points in the game. kobe scores more than vince. and most of that is on iso. imagine if he had a kidd to find him with those sweet direct pin point passes? and kobe STILL does better than vince. i dont think vince is a bad player, he is one of the better players of the game. but man... you so overrate him. you have also underrated jason kidd.

Originally posted by darth_royke
tanjot, may i be the first to say...

"stop talking out of vince carters arse"

you really are an idiot. not ALL of his points are from iso's, kidd is the best passers in the game, if he doesnt make the direct pass to carter its to a player who will from an easier position had it been most other points in the game. kobe scores more than vince. and most of that is on iso. imagine if he had a kidd to find him with those sweet direct pin point passes? and kobe STILL does better than vince. i dont think vince is a bad player, he is one of the better players of the game. but man... you so overrate him. you have also underrated jason kidd.

wow....dumass...i said most of his points come off iso plays, not all. i clearly said that j-kidd and rj help the nets a lot...and they do help vince carter a little bit, but not much. vince does not need rj to create more opportunities for him in as he proved in his first season and he is just as productive with kidd on the bench as he is with him on. as for being a great passer...yeah...j -kidd is a great passer but he wont make a sick pass through three defenders to vince cutting in the lane for a quick layup or alley oop on every play. my opinion will stay my opinion that vince is an under rated player and i am in no way discrediting rj or j-kidd, just telling the truth.

Originally posted by tanjot
wow....dumass...i said most of his points come off iso plays, not all. i clearly said that j-kidd and rj help the nets a lot...and they do help vince carter a little bit, but not much. vince does not need rj to create more opportunities for him in as he proved in his first season and he is just as productive with kidd on the bench as he is with him on. as for being a great passer...yeah...j -kidd is a great passer but he wont make a sick pass through three defenders to vince cutting in the lane for a quick layup or alley oop on every play. my opinion will stay my opinion that vince is an under rated player and i am in no way discrediting rj or j-kidd, just telling the truth.

Har har har. face-plain

😆 That reminds me of the old A&W Root Beer commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMe3WDmxBEI&search=dumass

tanjot, fair enough. but well done for sayin its your opinion then stating teh truth when its your opinion. if you want to stay oblivious to everything that helps vince, go ahead. vince carter is a good player. but he is NOWHERE near as good as you claim.

END OF SUBJECT

that will remain your opinion as mines will remain mine....don't tell me your right...and i won't say im right. state opinions and keep it at that.
now, will be the end of this subject.

yeah until next time someone mentions vince... and you'll be drooling again

Well for me (no order)

kobe
duncan
lebron
d.wade
nash
j.kidd
t-mac
arenas
ai
nowistki

Originally posted by darth_royke
yeah until next time someone mentions vince... and you'll be drooling again

ur a true idiot, i said the end of this subject as in what me and you were specifically arguing, i expect those worthless comments from you because thats just the way you are...you would say the same thing if i said something about you and the raptors. you r acting like all i talk about is vince, you can act sarcastic all you want but that is not the only thing i talk about in these threads.

i know its not all you comment about it. but i'd say approx 80-90% is all about vince. i did end teh subject myself... but you have to keep it dragging on. grow up laddy

I'd say about 80-90% is pretty accurate. Myth you're the stat man, can you confirm?

😄

if i am making an argument for vince with someone else....then yes, that means i am talking about him. i had not come back to these threads until you people started asking me questions regarding gm which also involved vince, and from there they continued....so don't give me this bullshit since you did not refer back to my last point and this is all you have left to say.

Originally posted by tanjot
ur a true idiot, i said the end of this subject as in what me and you were specifically arguing, i expect those worthless comments from you because thats just the way you are...you would say the same thing if i said something about you and the raptors. you r acting like all i talk about is vince, you can act sarcastic all you want but that is not the only thing i talk about in these threads.

in one of my posts i said that MOST of vince's scoring is done off iso plays, and in the very next post you said NOT ALL of vince's points come off iso plays which came after...yet again, some vince carter joke bullshit

since you may act or be oblivous to my last point regarding a basketball discussion and not some bullshit...there it is.