Ganthet vs White-Crown Phoenix

Who would win??

I think ganthet would easily win

Ganthet the guardian? Puh-lease 😉

We've already debated that Anti-Monitor couldnt do it so im quite puzzled by this. 😕

ganthet is more powerful than the spectre, and is billions of years old, and the greatest guardian ever.

Originally posted by eleveninches
ganthet is more powerful than the spectre, and is billions of years old, and the greatest guardian ever.

Good for him.

Jeans one with the power of creation from which all life in Marvel derives from. Oh and in a crossover with Dc Phoenix and the Source were shown to be the same thing. Is Ganthet more powerful than the Source?😕

he is more powerful than jean gray phoenix

she is only a mortal mutant, after all. he is immortal

Originally posted by eleveninches
he is more powerful than jean gray phoenix

Oh thats a good counter argument. 😂

Based on what? Your love for the character? 😕

Originally posted by eleveninches
she is only a mortal mutant, after all. he is immortal

She isnt a mortal mutant thats where you're wrong. It always helps to do a little research into the characters before a starting a versus match on them.

Or you could start off your thread by stating that you know little about one of the featured characters so can someone help you out. Id be glad to. 😄

she got killed. by magneto. if she died, she isnt immortal.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Oh thats a good counter argument. 😂

Based on what? Your love for the character? 😕

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

You were saying?

You have the old retcon phoenix cemented into your head. Get rid of that idea. That was not how phoenix was in its first appearance and its not how Phoenix is in current continuity.

Jean is literally phoenix. There is no seperate firebird entity. That is merely a physical manifestation of Jeans power.

Dark Phoenix was Jean. It was her phoenix essence. A shard of her.

Ganthet = no match

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You were saying?

You have the old retcon phoenix cemented into your head. Get rid of that idea. That was not how phoenix was in its first appearance and its not how Phoenix is in current continuity.

Jean is literally phoenix. There is no seperate firebird entity. That is merely a physical manifestation of Jeans power.

Dark Phoenix was Jean. It was her phoenix essence. A shard of her.

Originally posted by eleveninches
so how can phoenix be the power of creation AND be jean gray at the same time? She was born less than 100 years ago, but the power of creation was around a long time before that

Jean has always been phoenix she just never knew it.

When Jeans phoenix self appearred to her on the space shuttle it said to her :

“-My consciousness, my form and its ability to communicate on this plane of existence derive directly from you. They provide an...awareness of your dominant emotions and memories."

Jean is just the closest thing Phoenix has to a human form. She is the true avatar (direct manifestation of something on the physical plane) Theothers such as Rachel and Giraud are just hosts for this power. They wield a shard of Jean power. In Excalibur Rachel asked Phoenix to show its true form:

^true story.