Snakes On a Plane

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

No, you're getting it twisted. If the actor is complete shit, and he still likes it purely because of who the man is, that's stupid. That's Justin Timberlake fan mentality.

Yeah, I thought about this. I don't think that someone that likes Justin Timberlake is stupid for liking Justin Timberlake.It seems to me that it is the same as saying that someone is stupid for reading the books he can understand. That someone is stupid for doing the work he is able to work. And I just don't think that is stupid.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

It's also stupid to assume the movie audience will be the same.

I agree. Then I am not sure if he took that into account and still was willing to take the risk. that wouldn't really be stupid then.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

That's dumb logic, but then, it is Bardock logic. Anything is ok if you think it is.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

It's not "wrong", or stupid to him, but it's stupid to me. To say it's not stupid simply because he enjoys it is dumb. What Hitler did was pretty bad, but he enjoyed it.

To say it is stupid simply because it would be stupid for you to do it is what is actually dumb.

Nice Hitler example there. But I believe people go to movies for entertainment generally....so why is it stupid to go to the cinema for entertainment although that entertainment might not come from the storyline of the movie (or any other part of the movie you deem better than one of the actors)?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

See what I mean? You pointlessly debate me for no reason, then agree with me. Why do you do it? Genuine question. I gave you more credit than to be someone after attention.

-AC

No, I did not pointlessly debate you. I didn't agree with you (or vice versa). I stated what you could say without being wrong. Let me make it clear to you again.

Going to a movie to see an actor (be entertained) is not stupid. It's not stupid to him. It's not stupid to me. And I very much hope that it isn't actually stupid to you either.

What would be stupid is you going to the movie for that actor or the crowd, since you don't seem to like the actor nor want to go to a movie for the surrounding feeling. That's okay. But it doesn't make it stupid to want to do that.

And I am doing this (besides my obvious love for attention) because I genuinely believe you are wrong. And I feel like pointing this out to you. I also enjoy actual debates with intelligent people.

And did you actually give me more credit? Lets not kid ourselves.

THE NAME SUCKS. If they changed the name i might watch it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, I thought about this. I don't think that someone that likes Justin Timberlake is stupid for liking Justin Timberlake.It seems to me that it is the same as saying that someone is stupid for reading the books he can understand. That someone is stupid for doing the work he is able to work. And I just don't think that is stupid.

I think it is. There's a difference between stupid and wrong. I think it's stupid.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I agree. Then I am not sure if he took that into account and still was willing to take the risk. that wouldn't really be stupid then.

It would still be stupid, more so even.

Originally posted by Bardock42
To say it is stupid simply because it would be stupid for you to do it is what is actually dumb.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying it's stupid any way you look at it, isn't it?

To go to a movie and say the movie is good purely because the audience was good. Even then, to me personally, a good audience is one that shuts up and enjoys the movie. You don't need to sit there cheering.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nice Hitler example there. But I believe people go to movies for entertainment generally....so why is it stupid to go to the cinema for entertainment although that entertainment might not come from the storyline of the movie (or any other part of the movie you deem better than one of the actors)?

Because if the entertainment you go there for, you can get elsewhere for free by other legal and legitimate means, why even go to the movie? Why pay for a movie when it's not the movie you're aiming for? Do you not see the point?

If hanging out with fun people is his aim, then go do it with friends without paying. Why see a movie to be in a room with people you don't know, and deem it a "fun" experience just because they were cheering?

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, I did not pointlessly debate you. I didn't agree with you (or vice versa). I stated what you could say without being wrong. Let me make it clear to you again.

I'm not wrong anyway, so you were being pointless.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Going to a movie to see an actor (be entertained) is not stupid. It's not stupid to him. It's not stupid to me. And I very much hope that it isn't actually stupid to you either.

Going to see a movie simply because a certain actor is in it, to me, is stupid. I'm not saying you're wrong for being entertained by it, but the action of it is stupid.

Because that's like paying to see Bob Dylan do something shit just because you like Bob Dylan. Pointless and illogical. If it makes you happy, fine. It's illogical, though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What would be stupid is you going to the movie for that actor or the crowd, since you don't seem to like the actor nor want to go to a movie for the surrounding feeling. That's okay. But it doesn't make it stupid to want to do that.

If he is going to see Snakes on a Plane for the audience and/or this actor, then yes, I believe those are stupid reasons for going. End of debate. There are ways he can be entertained by the actor without paying for a movie.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And I am doing this (besides my obvious love for attention) because I genuinely believe you are wrong. And I feel like pointing this out to you. I also enjoy actual debates with intelligent people.

And did you actually give me more credit? Lets not kid ourselves.

You aren't debating what I am. You're trying to debate something subjective, but also missing the point as you always do.

-AC

Originally posted by FoxMeister
THE NAME SUCKS. If they changed the name i might watch it.

AC, can we agree about that being stupid?

Originally posted by Bardock42
AC, can we agree about that being stupid?

The funny thing is, if the name was deceiving, I could understand people being duped into seeing it.

It's telling you that the film is snakes dwelling on a plane, and people are still paying.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
To go to a movie and say the movie is good purely because the audience was good.

Somebody said that?

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Somebody said that?

I've known people to say it, but nobody here has ACTUALLY said it. It's only been implied.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

This proves my point.

People don't even know why they're going. Now it's for the audience and some washed up child actor.

-AC

Dude, it was a joke. The only movies I've seen that has Kenan in them would be Good Burger which was when I was a dumb kid and Barbershop 2. Do you really think I would watch trash like Love Don't Cost A Thing or Fat Albert just because Kenan is in them? Come on man.

I never said I would go see the movie JUST for the audience. I implied it would be fun if the audience was like that, that's all. The reason I brought it up was because I had never heard of that happening in a theatre before. My first reason to see the film would be so I could be entertained by the movie.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say in another thread that you paid to watch Pirates of the Caribbean II? What the difference between Snakes and POTC II? Both are marketing ploys. Both are mindless entertainment.

Caught a showing of SoaP last night.

It was great!

My expectations were pretty low, so I was pleasantly surprised. I went with about 10 other people too, which made it more fun.

It was a campy, action-packed and humorous film. Anyone who needs a good dose of mindless entertainment should see this movie. But you need to be in the right mindset. Don't go in expecting an Oscar-winning film. Either go in expecting a fun movie or nothing at all, and I pretty much guarantee that you'll like it.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Caught a showing of SoaP last night.

It was great!

My expectations were pretty low, so I was pleasantly surprised. I went with about 10 other people too, which made it more fun.

It was a campy, action-packed and humorous film. Anyone who needs a good dose of mindless entertainment should see this movie. But you need to be in the right mindset. Don't go in expecting an Oscar-winning film. Either go in expecting a fun movie or nothing at all, and I pretty much guarantee that you'll like it.

Sounds good. I think I'll see this on my next day off. I love these types of movies, like Lake Placid, Eight Legged Freaks etc . . . Snakes On A Plane seems like it will live up to those types of films.

AC grow up. Life does on despite your claims of being manipulated by marketing coorperations.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
WHAT THE F*CK-A-DUCK!?!?!?!

Do you have point?

Originally posted by exanda kane
AC grow up. Life does on despite your claims of being manipulated by marketing coorperations.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Who said anything about movies making money being a bad thing? I said it's tricking people into paying money to see the crap. It is. It's one of those nerd movies, the kind that they try to make "uncool" to not like.

I'm not asking you about the ins and outs of morals in movie going, stop being so over-dramatic. I was asking why you'd pay money multiple times to see Snakes on a Plane, quite literally. If the answer is: "Because it's entertaining.", then fine, but I question how easily entertained you are.

-AC

No, I think you're just trying to dig a hole in the water AC. No one is being over dramatic...I don't know where you came with that comment. Entertainment doesn't really any kind of indepth analysis...that's how it is...some people like cherry pie...others like apple pie....and some just like any kind of pie.

I think whats happening here is very unsual indeed. I think SOaP is the very first film ever. To get more hype from the negative responses who don't like the title than people who actually seen the movie.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Do you have point?

Yeah, your examples of 'Masterpiece Theather' were truly hilarious and utterly ridiculous.

Thank you...now you can go on living.

Thank you. Knowing what kinds of movies you believe are masterpieces has helped me put your review of 'Snakes On a Plane' into perspective. I have grown a lot from this experience, and I look forward to crystalising my knowledge of other people's ... tastes in the not too distant future. Again, thank you.

Quite welcome...now if you have to say something on the topic please do so. Otherwise you can walk the way you came from. Or I can guide you out.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf

I think whats happening here is very unsual indeed. I think SOaP is the very first film ever. To get more hype from the negative responses who don't like the title than people who actually seen the movie.

Are you suggesting the critics have fallen most heavily into the trap?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Quite welcome...now if you have to say something on the topic please do so. Otherwise you can walk the way you came from. Or I can guide you out.

Well, you see, I am on topic seeing as I am discussing my evaluation of your review of...yeah, you guessed it...'Snakes On a Plane'! Thanks to your insightful review, I don't think I'll waste my money on it. Thank you again!