Darkseid vs Odin

Post Crisis Darkseid, no jobbing avatar/or PIS used in HUNTER/PREY or other's Superman must be a cosmic level guy appearences, it's a tie, or Odin's death.
The results would be Asgard or Apokolips or the battlefield used, almost destroyed, cause a normal planet would get erased I think.
Odin fighting Marvel's Seth who's not even a skyfather, but a powerful god, caused multiversal level shockwaves.Against Darkseid, he'll need Gugnir, and all of his magical and cosmic might, Darkseid on the other hand, is not just Omega Beams and punches, his telekinesis and energy wielding abilities are more than just some eyebeams, and his physical strength and durability would put Odin in troubles, like when he fought Surtur.I say this is close considering both characters feat, DS may have the edge considering a simple but useful things like the ability of directing his OE, while also assaulting Odin in other ways, it may be a simple but really good wildcard.

set is an elder god, which is traditionally above skyfather in power level.

Originally posted by manorastroman
set is an elder god, which is traditionally above skyfather in power level.

Originally posted by Desaad
Just to address this point...We did indeed see Darkseid killing the gods of those pantheons. It was a brief thing, but in issue 15 of Simonson's "Orion" series we see him killing them with his Omega Beams.

Personally.

Are you talking about Infinity? I think I already addressed, he was tapping into the Infinity Abstract's power to do this.

Well thats a little misleading as Odin far from created the device out of thin air. Lots of different races and magics were involved. It was a combination of the Hammer and Thor's own godly essence, which is partially derived from Gaea rather than Odin.

Also, this Galactus was weak and fighting Odin just before.

When has he created pocket universes? Just curious, as I know this is definitely something DC's Odin did.

Ressurection is actually no big deal for Darkseid. Does it all the time.

And he really didn't create man save in his own myth. Marvel's true creation story seems to be the Celestials tampering.

You addressed it, but your word isn't law. However when you gain enough post to post scans, and you post the scans than my opinion will surely change.

I don't know where you got this info from, but it seems a bit sketchy. As far as I know and from what I've read, Odin himself had the weapon created by the elves Brok, Buri, and Ertri and he was the one who then blessed it and gave it it's power.

Galactus never fought Odin. However Galactus fed, Ego engaged him in battle which wore Galactus out a bit. Thor then went on and nearly killed the cosmic threat.

If I recall correctly it was before his fight with Seth.

When a single person is resurrected it may not be a big deal, however when Galaxies are reborn and restored it's a massive feat. That and Odin and his brothers Vali, and Vi are responsible for the creation of some races of people.

is odin essential to the universe? if he's not the OE would wipe him off.

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
is odin essential to the universe? if he's not the OE would wipe him off.

Apparently not, since he's died and Thor took his place.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You addressed it, but your word isn't law. However when you gain enough post to post scans, and you post the scans than my opinion will surely change.

I've given you quotes and issue numbers so that you can check the reference out yourself.

Until I can post links (does anyone have any idea when this might happen?) there is really nothing more I can do.

EDIT: I can post links! Huzzah!

Top of the page, first panel....You can see the hand of "infinity" holding a planet, much like in the actual story itself, and then the issue number of that arc is specifically referred to.

I don't know where you got this info from, but it seems a bit sketchy. As far as I know and from what I've read, Odin himself had the weapon created by the elves Brok, Buri, and Ertri and he was the one who then blessed it and gave it it's power.

I'm not absolutely sure on this, but its what I remember from Oeming's run on the Thor title.

Galactus never fought Odin.

Oops, I'm sorry I meant Ego!

However Galactus fed, Ego engaged him in battle which wore Galactus out a bit. Thor then went on and nearly killed the cosmic threat.

Right, but not in any sort of fair fight. While he was distracted, Thor took his time to brace and prepare himself. We know how quickly Galactus gets hungry.

I'm really not sure what your point is with this line of reasoning. Thor has never used the Godblast against Thanos, so its not at all indicative of the kind of power Thanos can stand up to.

If I recall correctly it was before his fight with Seth.

I'd have to ask for a page/issue number, or a scan because I've read that story and I don't recall it.

When a single person is resurrected it may not be a big deal, however when Galaxies are reborn and restored it's a massive feat. That and Odin and his brothers Vali, and Vi are responsible for the creation of some races of people.

Galaxies being reborn or restore doesn't mean that the inhabitants are all reborn/restored. No evidence to show that the people just suddenly got up from their graves and started walking around. More likely it means that dying suns were rekindled and the like.

What races are they ACTUALLY shown to be responsible for, I would ask? Because while the Simonson issues might point you in that direction, later issues with the Elder Gods, Demiurge, Gaea, etc point to that mostly being myth.

When's the OE wiped a being as powerful as Odin? On panel? Scans, please.

Originally posted by Soljer
When's the OE wiped a being as powerful as Odin? On panel? Scans, please.

And exactly who is as powerful as Odin? Marvelites would have us believe No one under an abstract is as powerful as Odin. Tho is he simply a skyfather.

Originally posted by Desaad
I've given you quotes and issue numbers so that you can check the reference out yourself.

Until I can post links (does anyone have any idea when this might happen?) there is really nothing more I can do.

EDIT: I can post links! Huzzah!

Top of the page, first panel....You can see the hand of "infinity" holding a planet, much like in the actual story itself, and then the issue number of that arc is specifically referred to.

I'm not absolutely sure on this, but its what I remember from "Oeming's run on the Thor title.

Oops, I'm sorry I meant Ego!

Right, but not in any sort of fair fight. While he was distracted, Thor took his time to brace and prepare himself. We know how quickly Galactus gets hungry.

I'm really not sure what your point is with this line of reasoning. Thor has never used the Godblast against Thanos, so its not at all indicative of the kind of power Thanos can stand up to.

I'd have to ask for a page/issue number, or a scan because I've read that story and I don't recall it.

Galaxies being reborn or restore doesn't mean that the inhabitants are all reborn/restored. No evidence to show that the people just suddenly got up from their graves and started walking around. More likely it means that dying suns were rekindled and the like.

What races are they ACTUALLY shown to be responsible for, I would ask? Because while the Simonson issues might point you in that direction, later issues with the Elder Gods, Demiurge, Gaea, etc point to that mostly being myth.

The scan provided specifically stated it was Thor #185 when Odin tapped into Infinity's power. However it was Thor #188 when Odin's mind was consuming the universe, thus it was Odin's power and not Infinity's.

Thor #80, the prologue to Ragnarok is where the info is given. This comic also retconns the Asgardians to be millions of years old instead of the thousands that was once believed.

We all make mistakes 😛

It wasn't fair, however it was still a great feat.

I don't know, I'll have to go back and look that up.

It was stated that he gave life back to those who were taken during his ordeal with Infinity. It was also stated that he erased there memories so the they would not remeber the conflict.

Thor #80

"At the beginning of all things"

"Odin and his brothers Vali, and Vi slew the giant Ymir who gave birth to the universe. From his body they created heaven and earth."

"his skull became the sky"

"his brain the clouds"

"his blood the seas"

"his hair the trees"

"his bones the mountains and rocks"

"Odin breathed life into tunneling maggots from Ymir's rotting flesh and gave them the wits and shape of men"

"These became the Dwraves who dwell under the mountain Ymir-Krual."

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And exactly who is as powerful as Odin? Marvelites would have us believe No one under an abstract is as powerful as Odin. Tho is he simply a skyfather.

Skyfather is not a lv, it is a rank. For example if Galactus decided to create a pantheon, he would be titled as the skyfather.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
The scan provided specifically stated it was Thor #185 when Odin tapped into Infinity's power. However it was Thor #188 when Odin's mind was consuming the universe, thus it was Odin's power and not Infinity's.

You have got to be kidding me.

185 was the start of that arc. Odin was tapping into the Infinity being the entire time. Think about it...Odin is tapping Infinity, the evil part of his psyche is called Infinity...makes sense, doesn't it?

185 was referenced because thats when he started tapping into a "small portion" of Infinity's power.

Thor #80, the prologue to Ragnarok is where the info is given. This comic also retconns the Asgardians to be millions of years old instead of the thousands that was once believed.

I'll take a look and get back to ya.

We all make mistakes 😛

It wasn't fair, however it was still a great feat.

I don't know, I'll have to go back and look that up.

It was stated that he gave life back to those who were taken during his ordeal with Infinity. It was also stated that he erased there memories so the they would not remeber the conflict.

Right, while he was tapping the power of Infinity. Not a straight Odin feat.

Thor #80

"At the beginning of all things"

"Odin and his brothers Vali, and Vi slew the giant Ymir who gave birth to the universe. From his body they created heaven and earth."

"his skull became the sky"

"his brain the clouds"

"his blood the seas"

"his hair the trees"

"his bones the mountains and rocks"

"Odin breathed life into tunneling maggots from Ymir's rotting flesh and gave them the wits and shape of men"

"These became the Dwraves who dwell under the mountain Ymir-Krual."

Thats the Asgardian MYTH, yes, there is no doubt about that.

But what of the Greek, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian/Jewish/Muslim creation myth? What of the scientific, Demi-urgic myth?

Originally posted by Desaad
You have got to be kidding me.

185 was the start of that arc. Odin was tapping into the Infinity being the entire time. Think about it...Odin is tapping Infinity, the evil part of his psyche is called Infinity...makes sense, doesn't it?

185 was referenced because thats when he started tapping into a "small portion" of Infinity's power.

I'll take a look and get back to ya.

Right, while he was tapping the power of Infinity. Not a straight Odin feat.

Thats the Asgardian MYTH, yes, there is no doubt about that.

But what of the Greek, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian/Jewish/Muslim creation myth? What of the scientific, Demi-urgic myth?

IIRC the whole battle and story took place and was resolved in one comic. I may be wrong, but what I recall is Odin going to sleep, Hela pulling out a part of his mind which she called Infinity, Odin waking up and destroying Infinity, Odin restores all that was destroyed.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity9.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/OdinvsInfinity10.jpg

I guess

I only posted what the comic stated, I have no care for the Greek, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian/Jewish/Muslim creation myths.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Skyfather is not a lv, it is a rank. For example if Galactus decided to create a pantheon, he would be titled as the skyfather.

Yes but on THIS forum, Skyfather is used as a rank.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes but on THIS forum, Skyfather is used as a rank.

This means what? skyfather is still a rank, and not a power lv.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
This means what? skyfather is still a rank, and not a power lv.

DS has used the Omega Effect on the Infinity man who is more powerful than Him. Odin loses. Have a good day.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS has used the Omega Effect on the Infinity man who is more powerful than Him. Odin loses. Have a good day.

Odin stops time before the attack is used and pokes DS eyes out. 😉

Odin 10/10

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Odin stops time before the attack is used and pokes DS eyes out. 😉

Odin 10/10

UM, DS can control reality and makes Odin into a normal Human being. THat is basically how you sound. Just get over it, DS has been shown OEing someone very powerful away. Odin looses.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM, DS can control reality and makes Odin into a normal Human being. THat is basically how you sound. Just get over it, DS has been shown OEing someone very powerful away. Odin looses.

When has DS controlled reality?

When has DS used the OE to wipe someone out who is on Odin's lv? All you said is that DS used the oe on Infinity Man.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
When has DS controlled reality?

When has DS used the OE to wipe someone out who is on Odin's lv? All you said is that DS used the oe on Infinity Man.