Originally posted by His AirnessBut the point is it was pis, which isn't acceptable on this forum. You know Dracula smacked Silver Surfer in a canon source, but does that mean it's logical?
There's no reason to bring up canon material in a debate on a forum where canon material is acceptable? 😕Diana did so as well.
Originally posted by leonidasGo read the Darkseid respect thread.
that's all well and good. did you get that list from some wiki, or some other forum, or can you actually SHOW any of the feats you listed?barring that, i'd love a list of the issues where all of those things happened.
if you can't provide either, it's a list of unsubstaniated feats.
Originally posted by starking
But the point is it was pis, which isn't acceptable on this forum. You know Dracula smacked Silver Surfer in a canon source, but does that mean it's logical?
I thought Superman defeating Thor the way he did was PIS, however it doesn't stop people from bringing it up.
Canon = Canon
Originally posted by His AirnessOk then, Spider-man can beat Firelord, Superman can beat Despro, the Fanstatic Four can beat Thanos, Dracula can beat Silver Surfer, Batman can hurt the Spectre, and Spider-man can beat Thanos. Thats great logic isn't it?
I thought Superman defeating Thor the way he did was PIS, however it doesn't stop people from bringing it up.Canon = Canon
Originally posted by starking
So I guess I lied about everything I listed huh?
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yeah, THAT's what i said . . . 🙄
but i guess you DON'T know the context of said feats, nor where to find them. 🙂
could be the respect thread is actually a good one and that some of the feats DID happen as clearly as you listed them. however, i doubt that is the case for all of the feats -- maybe even for many of them.
Originally posted by leonidasThe respect thread is very good, and I can assure you, nothing was taken out of context. I'll tell what storys the feats happened in.
😂yeah, THAT's what i said . . . 🙄
but i guess you DON'T know the context of said feats, nor where to find them. 🙂
could be the respect thread is actually a good one and that some of the feats DID happen as clearly as you listed them. however, i doubt that is the case for all of the feats -- maybe even for many of them.
Originally posted by starking
Darkseid is more powerful for the following reasons
1. He beat the Time trapper
2. He beat Mordru
3.He absorbs other Gods powers
4. Destroyed planets as a side effect during a fight with Orion
5. Defeated Superman after being weakened by attacking Imperiax
6. Owned the pre-crisis Jla through a hologram
7. Gave a solar system buster his powers
8. Disangrated a Daxamite, a being equal to pre-crisis Superboy
9. Gave Validus his powers
10. Stalemated the former Spectre
11. Pwned Dr.Fate
12. Destroyed the Anti-monitors physical form
13. Teleported his galaxy sized planet
14. took away Secrets power
15. Owned the pre-crisis Legion with a mere thought
16. Defeated a powered up pc Superboy and Supergirl
17. Gave a skyfather level being her powers
18. Defeated Infinity man
19. Defeated New Genesis
20. Mindraped 3 billion Daxamites
21. Cloned a guardian of the universe
22. Scared the Lords of chaos and order
23. Halt Ares with the godwave
24. Took a solar system blast with no effect
Now heres his only bad showings
1. Lost to Superman under Loeb's writing
2. Lost to Superman under Loeb's writing
3. Lost to Superman under Loeb's writing
A good amount of those have NOTHING to do with personal raw power.
Take that Jimmy-esque skewring of the facts to someone else who is ignorant enough to believe it.
And at least three separate writeer showed Superman beating up Darksied, none of which contradict anything about Darkseid's feats, considering that Superman was blatantly raised up to his level due to his dynamic power factor.
So stop bringing it up. the fact is that Darkseid is NOT as physically formidable as Thanos, and NEVER has been. He's certainly in the same class, and is at least as powerful all around, probably even greater.
Regardless, Odin destroys him in power. Utterly.
Originally posted by panthergod🤨
At least half of those feats are completely irrelevant since Crisis.A good amount of those have NOTHING to do with personal raw power.
Take that Jimmy-esque skewring of the facts to someone else who is ignorant enough to believe it.
And at least three separate writeer showed Superman beating up Darksied, none of which contradict anything about Darkseid's feats, considering that Superman was blatantly raised up to his level due to his dynamic power factor.
So stop bringing it up. the fact is that Darkseid is NOT as physically formidable as Thanos, and NEVER has been. He's certainly in the same class, and is at least as powerful all around, probably even greater.
Regardless, Odin destroys him in power. Utterly.
Originally posted by starking
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The crisis didn't effect the 4th world and yes, he did all of that with personal power.
Furthermore, Post Zero Hour, the Legion's history was wiped out.
And no, he did not do all of that with personal power. that is a lie.
You obviously get your information from other posters on these boards. why not actually read the instances those situations happened it. the Ares incident, for one, had nothing to do with personal power and was accomplished with tech.
Originally posted by panthergodNo the crisis didn't effect the 4th world. Do you know how many good feats Darkseid has in the post crisis? And zero hour only erased the Legion's timeline. Like the crisis, it didn't effect the 4th world. So pretty much theirs no way to debunk Ds's Gds feats.
They remember the Crisis. that is all you can claim. Their powerlevels were clearly effected. Otherwise, the Post Crisis Superman, considering how he withstood the Astro Force, is more durable than Pre-Crisis inerton(that Pre-C Superboy couldn't DENT), which the Astro Force cracked in Great Darkness Saga.Furthermore, Post Zero Hour, the Legion's history was wiped out.
And no, he did not do all of that with personal power. that is a lie.
You obviously get your information from other posters on these boards. why not actually read the instances those situations happened it. the Ares incident, for one, had nothing to do with personal power and was accomplished with tech.