Opponents using physical force huh?...well do u know who the Hulk's greatest enemy of all time probably was?...the LEADER...a guy with zero physical powers...Behind Doom and Richards, (arguably) Leader is perhaps the most intelligent guy on the planet...Vastly smarter than Magneto...yet with all his cunning plans and high tech attacks, Hulk ended up killing him in the end...decemating his frail body of human durability....the same way he would with Mags.
I just don't see how hulk can possibly lay a hand on magneto when he's in the air, I mean he can move laterally or bash him off course with his helmet to protect himself.
You all talk about how hulk is going to crush magneto, but you never say HOW he's going to actually lay his hands on him. Fighter jets are one thing, but they cant move in any direction they chose at any given interval.
Until someone comes up with reasoning as to how hulk gets his hands on Mags, I say mags is going to find some way to kill hulk, most likely spinal injury or puncturing his skull with some type of metallic pole.
If gamma radiation does not affect the iron content of Hulk's blood, then Magneto could win easily. Remember, Magneto ripped Apocalypse in half, created asteroid M, reprogrammed 10 sentinals simultaneously, and plenty of other feats that put Hulk to shame. If, by chance, the gamma radiation reduced the iron in Hulk's blood, then Hulk could pull out a win (if Hulk could even get his hands on Magneto).
hulk can physically graspe magneto's force fields with his bare hands. that is how hulk would get his hands on magneto. i dont know how much of a more clearer explaination i can give for 'how hulk will get his hands on magneto'
hulk can physically graspe mags energy force fields and can even use them to jump or propell himself towards mags. if, of course, mags would be stupid enough to try to use magnetic force fields on hulk. anything that mags tries to do to the hulk, the hulk will over power him, because mags strength in his powers is no where near the strength of the hulk.
well like most things, the comics never gave a specific speed. Logically, we can figure some things out though. We know he can survive in his field while in space. We know space has no oxygen, therefore we know his field is capable of holding air in, therefore also capable of holding air out. We also of course know that Mags control the EM spectrum and that his field if therefore made of some type of energy from that spectrum. Both electric forces and magnectic forces are capable of moving objects at tremendous speeds and with unbelieveable acceleration. Electrons move at the speed of light and get to that speed almost instantly; and we have magnetically controlled accelorators that move particles at almost the speed of light. It should therefore be assumed that with enough power (something which magneto has plenty of) he should be able to move at almost any speed he wants while in his bubble. I brought up the air thing earlier because I know someone will say that the wind sheer at high speeds would kill him, but if his field controls the air inside of it, the he would feel no wind sheer. The only thing holding him back is how many G forces he could withstand while accelerating. But for a short period of time (long enough to get him out of Hulks path), he could withstand some pretty heavy G's (like any human can for a short period).
Originally posted by turboman1691
But for a short period of time (long enough to get him out of Hulks path), he could withstand some pretty heavy G's (like any human can for a short period).
So he's trying to dodge Hulk by jerking himself around in the sky while trying to accurately sever a major organ of Hulk who is also leaping around like a gammafrog?
I was in phsyics class today, and I was thinking about how im going to use mags in the tounrnament because we are talking about the four basic forces (Gravity, elctromagnetic, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) and I realized, magneto doesnt even need to put metal in hulk. Magneto uses the earth's magnetic fields to lift himself up... he can do the same thing to hulk. At least, logicly he can... if not he can just sit in the air and when hulk jumps at him, he can throw something at him then dash to the side. The item will lodge itself in him, and then he can hold him still while he moves it around inside his body.
and hulk would easily tear the metal out of him, 'IF' mags could ever get it into him in the 1st place. remember, hulk strength is many more times as powerful as magnetos power.
magneto couldnt hold hulk in a bubble and suffucate him. hulk's lungs are stronger than mags' bubbles, and hulk could easily tear out of a bubble. hulk's organs are stronger than magneto's powers AND can regenerate instanttaneously.
all mags could do is evade and run.
Nomsans.... magneto can apply 'class 100' power to any piece of metal he wants... and wolverine cut hulk open pretty easily. Sure adamantium is much sharper, but wolverine isnt even class 1. Not only that, Hulk can try all he wants to pull the metal out, but Magneto could cause it do break apart and his hands would just sfit through it. Besides, hulk doesnt regenerate instanteously, he just regenerates REALLY fast, if mags shoves a steel girder through his spine he's going to be down and out for a very very very long time. As someone said elsewhere on the forums, last time hulk got spinal injuries it took him months to heal. (If this is true, I do not know, but it sounds correct considering it should leave a normal human paralyzed for life)
nomsans...I don't know for sure, so I will not there they are not, but what evidence is there that the Hulks organs are stronger than Magneto? I mean, how much can the hulk's brain or heart lift or press? I doubt thousands of tons like magneto can.
Also, how could he tear the metal out of his body? Is it possible for humans to rip their flesh open with their own hands? And if he did force his gigantic hand through his chest, mags could grab each side of the wound with metal hooks (which he could eaisly make from any environmental metal) and rip his flesh the rest of the way apart.
Originally posted by turboman1691
no, once the metal is inside of hulk, hulk is immobile. Like I've said before, once the metal is inside of him, Mags can easily lift in in the air and keep him from being at all offensive.
Hulk's skin isn't durable enough to resist that but it's durable enough to support him in the air by sharp bits of metal? What happens when he moves and cause Magneto's supports to come out? What happens if he uses more force than Magneto can handle? Does he get feedback like a GL?
Mags can force the metal in his pores, like we've talked about before. Then the turn the pieces larger (so that they won't fit back through his pores) and lift him up with them. The only force that would be pushing against them is the weight of hulks body ( a few thousand pounds) and that is not enough to pierce his skin even if the metal was razor sharpened adamantium.
To say Magneto's power is nowhere near Hulk's strength is ****ing stupid.
Everyone knows Hulk's base strength is 100 tons, and to get it higher, he has to get angrier.
Now, Magneto's powers don't HAVE a base strength, and we know he can lift 30,000 tons, WITHOUT becoming angry.
Now, unless the Secret Wars douche-head writers are writing this battle, Hulk isn't reaching 30,000 ton strength instantly.
since someone brought up writers again, let's remember this: Hulk is the good guy in a comic book serious and Magneto is a bad guy. People are always saying things like, "yeah but hulk beat leader who is smarter than Mags." and, "but the X-men constantly beat Mags." While this is true, we have to remember that the writing was in comic books and as we all know THE GOOD GUYS WIN IN COMIC BOOKS. I mean think realistically, there is no way, not a snow ball's chance in He*l that the X-men, Xavier included, could have done anything to have even slowed magento down. But since they were the good guys, the writers always created a way for them to do so. Now whether or not Leader could have beaten Hulk I don't know, but I do know that using analogies like those shouldn't really apply.