Magneto vs The Hulk

Started by Alpha Centauri82 pages

Based on the fact that you have some deep rooted Hulk hatred, I wouldn't say that's very credible.

You think that because you typed out all that with detail that it's how it'd happen? You just typed out a page long opinion and nothing more. I could waste my time doing the same thing for Hulk and while doing so, make it more believable. That's pure opinion though and I prefer to be logical and use reasoning to prove how Hulk would win.

PS: The X-Men Vs Hulk? Hahaha. That is truly funny.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't recall Magneto ever displaying the ability to do this though, so all I have is you telling me that he can. Besides, this is The Hulk we're talking about. If Magneto throws him away, he isn't gonna say "Oh **** off. Look how far away I am. Forget trying to get all the way back there."

This is a man that jumps across the United States to get to where he's going. Magneto hurling him away isn't gonna do anything, if he actually has the ability to do so.

Magneto flings things out of his way all the time. Usually metal objects, but he can create fields. Simply envelope Hulk in one and fling him away. Hulk can come back as many times as he wants, though he has displayed the ability to get bored with his prey if it isn't getting anywhere.

Well Hulk has displayed the ability to be able to reach Space in one jump up. Unless we actually want to get into "Yeah but Magneto would just fly here and do this...", Hulk could reach him.

Unless Hulk can change course in midair, it won't help him. If he could then it wouldn't be called jumping, it'd be flying. Magneto can simply fly sideways out of Hulk's way.

You think Hulk is gonna sit there and give Magneto the chance to actually do....well, anything? No.

-AC [/B]

Hulk doesn't really have a choice whether to give Magneto a chance or not, as long as he is out of Hulk's reach. Which he can definitely stay out of.

The only thing Magneto has going against him really is his stamina. It's nowhere near the Hulk's.

I really think Magneto could control the hulk if he wanted.

"Magneto flings things out of his way all the time. Usually metal objects, but he can create fields. Simply envelope Hulk in one and fling him away. Hulk can come back as many times as he wants, though he has displayed the ability to get bored with his prey if it isn't getting anywhere."

Hulk isn't just a random piece of metal. Magneto can't just fling him away. If Magneto can throw Hulk far enough away to make any kind of distance, Hulk would keep coming back. Yes he has got bored before but I don't:

A) Believe Magneto could actually do this "throwing Hulk to anywhere" thing that you claim he can do.

B) Believe that even if he could, that he would be able to do it far enough that Hulk would actually not be bothered coming back to.

"Unless Hulk can change course in midair, it won't help him. If he could then it wouldn't be called jumping, it'd be flying. Magneto can simply fly sideways out of Hulk's way."

Why can Magneto do multiple things at once to you, yet Hulk can apparantly only do one thing at a time? IF Hulk were to say, I dunno, hurl a couple of actual buildings toward Magneto, then jump toward him, Magneto isn't gonna say "Wait, let me move these then dodge you." Hulk will get him and tear him apart. Hulk isn't dumb anymore, he's at one of his strongest points ever and he retains intelligence now.

"Hulk doesn't really have a choice whether to give Magneto a chance or not, as long as he is out of Hulk's reach. Which he can definitely stay out of.

The only thing Magneto has going against him really is his stamina. It's nowhere near the Hulk's."

Exactly. So by the time Magneto has done all this cross-continent throwing, metal levitating, Hulk dodging and such that he would NEED TO DO to survive, he will be as worn out as Hugh Hefner after a night on the town. Hulk however, won't have broken a sweat, any bones or probably any skin.

"I really think Magneto could control the hulk if he wanted."

He couldn't.

-AC

uh... You people obviously don't read each other's post's very carefully. He said that Magneto would envelop him in a casing of a random metal object then hurl him. Anyways, Whenever you see any hero lift a building, it take a while to get it to the position where they can throw it. So throwing multiple buildings would take quite some time. You will probably counter my comment saying that the hulk gets stronger as he is fueled by more adrenaline, but this would most likely be at the beginnning of the battle, so he wouldn't be very strong. Hulk doesn't just attack anyone, so there is no backing, or reason for him to gain more strength or even attack him. If the Hulk threw a couple buildings at Magneto, wouldn't Magneto just grasp the metal skeleton of the building that holds its shape, and shove it back, therefore killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Do you people even understand the basis of the Hulks power? Or even Magnetos for that matter? Take the "Fatal Attractions" story as an example. In this story arc, Magneto releases an electromagnetic pulse that plunged the whole planet into the dark ages. Not only did he do this, but he did it with out breaking a sweat. Flipping the poles would take massive amounts of energy, but the man is more than capable. This is a man that builds space stations out of asteroids, bypasses the effects of the legacy virus in the brains of other mutants, handed wolverine his ass, warpped the enitre planets electromagnetic field, freeze other mutants in their place using the iron in their blood....

Hulk get mad!

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^Exactly. Magneto isn't some old punk ***** like some people think. He has MASSIVE amounts of power. He doesn't just control metal, and he isn't weak. Magneto CAN brace buildings and fly and do whatever he has to, all at the same time. Why CAN'T Magneto do all of these at the same time? You know, he doesn't have an old man's stamina, he's been rejuvinated. Even though stamina is his weak point, it's not so weak as to lose this battle.

Does the body need iron to survive? What if Magneto just took it all out?

Originally posted by laydiiplayette
Does the body need iron to survive? What if Magneto just took it all out?

Please read the rest of the thread. Hulk potentially doesn't have any.

thats bull

"He said that Magneto would envelop him in a casing of a random metal object then hurl him. "

Yeah coz we know how easily Hulk succumbs to being wrapped in metal don't we? Not like it's ever happened before and he's never broken out. Mr.Fantastic wrapped himself around the Hulk multiple times, Hulk just breathed him in and spat him out. Sure Magneto could wrap him in metal but if Hulk wants out, he's coming out. What makes you think Magneto could wrap him in enough metal to keep him bound long enough to throw him away? Even if he did, Hulk would have broken out mid air and been on his way back to Magneto by the time he landed, logically. There is no way that Magneto can stop the Hulk. Arac said it himself, his stamina is his weak point and I will address why this will be his one of his many downfalls in a second.

"You will probably counter my comment saying that the hulk gets stronger as he is fueled by more adrenaline, but this would most likely be at the beginnning of the battle, so he wouldn't be very strong. Hulk doesn't just attack anyone, so there is no backing, or reason for him to gain more strength or even attack him. "

Well I used buildings as an example. Given that Hulk could pretty much hurl anything he wanted to, I don't think objects matter to him. He doesn't attack everyone but a man hovering above him telling him that he's gonna take him out, is probably gonna be viewed as a threat. Hulk knows who Magneto is and can understand language given that he can retain intelligence now. If you actually wanna get into reasons for attacking then there would be no thread because Hulk has no reason to attack Magneto and reason or not Magneto would be smarter than to actually go after or attack the Hulk. Seeing as we aren't talking about why they would be fighting, reason is irrelevant.

"Why CAN'T Magneto do all of these at the same time? You know, he doesn't have an old man's stamina, he's been rejuvinated. Even though stamina is his weak point, it's not so weak as to lose this battle."

It'll run out before Hulk's does and Hulk knows that. So does Magneto. Therefore he would keep coming back. Boredom would have no effect coz he'd know that the end result is Magneto tiring out, thus giving him the opportunity to tear him apart. Even if Magneto could keep Hulk at a distance he'll just keep on coming and if ANYTHING....ANYTHING the Hulk throws (offensive move or object) hits Magneto, he's finished. That is what I am trying to say here. Nothing Magneto can do is a fight winner.

"Does the body need iron to survive? What if Magneto just took it all out?"

Like someone rightly pointed out, iron is what makes our blood red and seeing as Hulk's blood is green I don't see what will be done. There's nothing for him to control or manipulate. Science is a stupid thing to get involved in comic books though.

-AC

We know that the Hulk has broken out of multiple metal encasing, but in the comics, he doesn't just break out, it takes him like 30 seconds. Magneto has dealt with those kinds of guys before, so he would quickly throw him away like a used condom.

"Magneto has dealt with those kinds of guys before, so he would quickly throw him away like a used condom."

There is no "kind of guy" like The Hulk, overall. So no he hasn't.

How do you time how long it takes in the comics? Bit of a stupid call really. Not saying you're wrong or right, just that it's a bit stupid claiming it takes him a certain amount of time to break out of something when you don't even see it actually happen. Even so, Magneto isn't sending him anywhere in 30 seconds that he can't get back to because the man runs at 500mph and has a 3 mile jump.

-AC

OMG. We can just go around and around like this. So many people are saying, Oh, but Hulk will just run back. Who cares, Magneto will just do it again, and again, and again.

Id have to admit one hit on Magneto and hed be gone specially from a enraged hulk... But Magneto can essentially control everything since atoms create electrical fields which produces electromagnetic waves.

Originally posted by laydiiplayette
OMG. We can just go around and around like this. So many people are saying, Oh, but Hulk will just run back. Who cares, Magneto will just do it again, and again, and again.

That's why this thread is nearly 50 pages long.

As ive said, Fanboys galore on hulky.

This puppy is about to reach the millennium mark with posts. This is probably the second most debatable thread in this forum's history.

Its not debatable. Its just that the smart people cough cough, seem like they are talking to a wall.

Originally posted by laydiiplayette
Its not debatable. Its just that the smart people cough cough, seem like they are talking to a wall.

Sorry. I meant to say "second most debated thread in this forum's history".