Magneto vs The Hulk

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So needlessly out of line, Vic. Hahaha.

I don't actually get why you think Surfer is gay or more to the point why you brought it up here, knowing he's my favourite character.

Only a shithead would do that...oh wait...

(Don't ban me, he can take it. We know each other.)

-AC

Guess what? You are officially banned.

Psyche.😉

Damn dude! Dont get my hopes up!
God you had me celebrating.

1) the HULK can bend adamantium.
(Marvel Team-Up Vol.1 #18: Hulk wraps Blastaar in a ball of Adamantium and tosses him in the ocean.)

2) Hulk can break through Very Powerful 'force fields'.
(Breaks A Very Powerful Forcefield
TIH #198: Hulk is trapped by the Elder of the Univers known as the Collector. The collector states : "Your trapped in the most powerful forcefield at my disposal, so if your inclined to smash at something, try smashing THAT!! The Hulk begins to pound away at the shield. Narration then states :"At first the man brutes massive fists prove ineffectual against the shimmering energy sheild--but that does not deter him--for the madder Hulk gets--the stronger Hulk gets-- and as anyone who has ever met the green goliath can tell you--HIs RAGE--And his POWER--ARE BOUNDLESS!!".
AND
The Order #4: The Hulk shows sufficient strength to break out of the Silver Surfers force barrier. The Silver surfer has CASUALLY created barriers that can allow normaly humans to withstand black hole level gravity. Surfer was fully concentrating on containing the Hulk and failed due to the Hulks ever increasing anger/strength.
AND
The Defenders Vol.2 #8: The Kree employ a technology that repels your own power against you. Each of the Defenders are trapped in a force shield comprised and powerred by this energy. Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, and Namor all pass out attempting to break free of the force barrier. Hulk with his ever increasing strength is the only one that is able to break the barrier.)

3).Breaks The Pit That Holds The Flame Of Life
(TIH #242: Hulk's range causes his strength to increase to unseen limits until he is capable of breaking the pit where the Flame of Life is contained.
The pit is a deviant machine built to defeat the Celestials on thier next visit. Narration states: "He just pulls all the more, straining with every iota of his strength to rip free this infernal object...becmoming madder and madder, his strength BUILDING with his anger, as he tugs against a device built to withstand the power of gods (celestials)! But this is the power of the Hulk! AND ULTIMATLEY, THERE IS NO FORCE STRONGER THAN THE HULK!". )

4).Hulk can cause incredible SHOCKWAVES
(Hulk Annual #3: Hulk strikes the ground so hard that he sends shockwaves all the way from Colorado, USA to Denmark, Europe.
Hulk Annual #3: Hulk with another supersonic clap is able to produce a shockwave that "puts to shame the most powerful hurricanes in the history of the planet".
Hulk Annual #8: Hulk's fight against the Sasquatch, the Hulk looms to deliver what the narrator calls the "death blow" (it would have killed Sasquatch). Sasquatch luckily rolls to avoid the punch, but the Hulk ends up collapsing a large part of the Rocky mountian chain.)

5).Defeats Very Powerful Enemies
TIH2 #321, and TIH2 #322: Nearly annihilates two Avengers teams (minus Thor), that included Namor, She Hulk, Hercules, Wonder Man, and Iron Man. The Hulk nearly killed Iron Man during the fight, while Wonder Man feared for his life.
TIH2 #383, and TIH2 #459: Quickly shut down the Abomination.
TIH2 #404: Two punches effectively stunned the Juggernaut, sending him to his knees.

6).Destroys A Huge Asteroid
Marvel Comics Presents #52: With the help of some gadgets that enhance his jumping the Hulk is able to leap into space to smash an asteroid that is greater than double the planet earths mass.

7).Destroys Onslaught's Armor
Marvel Universe Onslaught: The fight with Onslaught. Onslaught was generating a psionic storm. None of the heroes had the strength to even get close to Onslaught, including Thor and Ironman who was being aided by Joseph. The Hulk however appeared to be on a totally different powerscale as he could not only advance against the strom, but continue the fight as if the storm had no effect on him. The Hulk proves to be able to overpower Onslaught and smash him with but a blow, after reaching insane anger levels. Onslaught had previously beat Juggernaut to the point of death. and in between his fights with Juggernaut and the Hulk Onslaught recieved 2 powerups. After one of which he stated "I have become even more powerful than my wildest imaginations". The Onslaught shell Hulk destroyed was far more powerful than the version that nearly killed the Juggernaut. Also Juggernaut has taken Thors godly essence blast without harm. Just to show Juggernauts power. Also in that same comic the Hulk was battling in the face of a psionic storm that was keeping Thor at bay. Thor lacked the strength to even approach the site of the battle. Hulk stood agianst the storm unphazed by its repelling power.

8).Destroys The High Evolutionary's Armor
TIH #266: Hulk is able to destroy the seemingly unbreakable armor of the High Evolutionary. The super being let the Hulk bang his armor, cos he wanted to die. He did provoke his death later on.

9).Grasps An Energy Bubble
TIH #242: The Hulk is able to grasp an energy bubble that is indicated by narration to be impossible to do. It didn't even have physical mass.... "that something--anything--should be able to grip hold of an energy should be imppossible! But the Hulk grabs hold of it just the same! The field begins to stretch LIKE a physical thing in his grasp--as he pushes and pulls with EVER INCREASING MIGHT, until--The barrier collapses!!".

10_.Hulk Is Power Incarnate
Secret Wars II #8: The Beyonder searches for the Hulk and finds him in the desert. Hulk attacks the Beyonder. Beyonder puts the Hulk in stasis and begins to probe him. The Beyonder says of the Hulks inner potential: "You are nothing but power incarnate! An infinity of power with no finite element inside!! Worse yet, you remind me of someone (himself)."

11).Leaps His Way Accross The Pacific
TTA #68: Hulk leaps his way accross the Pacific, from Asia to America, from island to island, even from plane to plane! Not just an extraordinay display of leg power, but of reflexes and coordination.

12).Moves Extremelly Fast
TIH2 #388: Hulk is able to tag Speedfreek, who was said to move faster than the eye can see.TIH2 #406: Hulk is able to move fast enough to tie up a stunned Captain America in a light post.
TIH2 #409: Hulk is able to to leap fast enough and keep up with (for a short time) Madman's jet. (Contributed by Russell Brisson)
Hulk Hulk is leaping and lands on a squad car. The cop's radar clocks the Hulk in at 473 mph.

13). Overcomes The Matter Antimatter Attraction
Marvel Team-Up Guest Starring Spider-Man: Hulk overcomes the matter antimatter attraction between two bombs. Both the creator of the bomb as well as Bruce Banner agree that overcoming the attraction should be scientifically impossible. As the attraction is a "force of nature". Hulk not only seperates the 2 but goes further by knocking one of them millions of miles away into space.

14. Reaches the Leader's Kenitictronic Gloves
TIH #225: Hulk is fighitng the Leader who is wielding his kenitictronic gloves. They deflect the all kenetic energy used against them back at thier foe. Hulk eventuals grows strong enough to overcome the gloves (or his own power) (3 minutes). Narration states: "Unfortunatley the Leader has forgotten a well kown fact: The madder the Hulk gets, the stronger the Hulk gets! And when it comes to anger the Hulk knows no limits!!".

15).Supports A Mountain On His Back
Secret Wars #4: The Banner Hulk saves his life and that of several super heroes (Spider-Man, Reed Richards, Iron Man, and Captain America, among others) by supporting on his back and shoulders, the weight of a huge mountain, thrown on top of them by the Molecule Man.
Additional text contributed by Russell Brisson: A calm Hulk catches and supports at least in part, a mountian range that "dwarfs the Andes". Reed Richards attempts to make the banner controlled Hulk angry so that he doesn't tire. The banner controlled Hulk is historically horrible at getting angry.
Hulk/Sentry: A 100% calm Hulk is able to hold up a mountian long enough for the subterraneans to escape.

16).Throws A Gem To The Center Of A Planet
TIH #248: Hulk throws the soul gem of the Gardener from the surface of planet K'ai, to its core, which means the gem penetrated the planet's very soil until it reached the center.

17).
Throws The Sub-Mariner From Key West To Miami
TTA #100: In this classic issue beautifully drawn by Marie Severin, Hulk throws Namor from the southern east point of the USA to the beaches of Miami. That's about 100 miles. The Sub-Mariner uses the wings of his ankles as brakes, otherwise, we would have landed even further (who knows where...)

I thought the adamantium he bent was low grade.

"Damn dude! Dont get my hopes up!
God you had me celebrating."

Love ittttttttt.

-AC

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I thought the adamantium he bent was low grade.

It was. Poor man's adamantium.

What do ANY of those examples have to do with the points just recently brought up? The absorption of Gamma Radiation and the such ?

bends adamantium? This means somethng? Mags completely tears apart and restructures adamantium based on a whim. Even movie Mags (mega pansy compared to real mags) bent adamantium with little to no effort. Do we know that Mag's force field is not as strong as any of the ones mentioned? I mean do we have stated comic book proof that the strongest field at elder's disposal is stronger than mags'? Or that it works similarly? Most force fields just block passage, and according to previous posts Mags' actually repels objects based on they ionic charge...so how do we know that Hulk could grasp Mags' field? If there is proof to answer these questions, please post it.

um mags stronger than an elder? can someone please think outside of x-men cartoons...Mags is strong but he is no cosmic.

I didn't ask if he was more powerful as a whole, just the force field he produces

besides, the collector is not nearly as powerful as other elders of the universe. It says this right in his marvel directory. http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/collector.htm

Mags doesn't need the most powerful forcefield EVER to take Hulk. He needs a forcefield powerful enough to hold Hulk at bay long enough to KO Hulk. Shouldn't take too long, and Hulk shouldn't get too angry in the process. It's not like Magneto is going to sit there and talk about Hulk's mama the whole time or anything...

Thread ends--->Magento wins---->Master of Magnetism rules all!!

Originally posted by turboman1691
Thread ends--->Magento wins---->Master of Magnetism rules all!!

Feh. You forgot to run out of the room with your fingers in your ears screaming "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"

Originally posted by demigawd
Mags doesn't need the most powerful forcefield EVER to take Hulk. He needs a forcefield powerful enough to hold Hulk at bay long enough to KO Hulk. Shouldn't take too long, and Hulk shouldn't get too angry in the process. It's not like Magneto is going to sit there and talk about Hulk's mama the whole time or anything...

I agree

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Feh. You forgot to run out of the room with your fingers in your ears screaming "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"

LOL. LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Feh. You forgot to run out of the room with your fingers in your ears screaming "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!"

HAHAHAHA

10 days with no post. That's gotta be a record

Well, it won't be 11 days now, thanks to YOU. lol. I think the two main parties just came to something of an accord, and there was nothing further to be said.

Mag.....(coughing)...neto wins it.