Literature in Music?

Started by Inspectah Deck15 pages

Literature in Music?

If you notice, a lot of good artists use allusions, puns, similies, metaphorhs, et cetera. Do you think there is literature or a form of spoticated english in music?

Most songs are written, lyrically, as a form of poetry.

Obviously they are unique in that you can't sing a poem to a song. Lyrics are commonly written last, but if good enough I do think they could be considered literary works of genius.

I don't pay much attention to lyrics save for a few.

-AC

I don't know if lyrics are "commonly" written last. Having had the fortune to sit down and talk with a relative accomplished singer/songwriter I had to ask him how he went about writing a song.

His response was that every time was a little different. Sometimes the words came first and it was a task to set music around it. Other times it was a melody in search of words wich could be an equally daunting task.

Music is an artform as it's creation. I don't know if there is any predesignated manner or common way in which to create a song.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I don't know if lyrics are "commonly" written last. Having had the fortune to sit down and talk with a relative accomplished singer/songwriter I had to ask him how he went about writing a song.

His response was that every time was a little different. Sometimes the words came first and it was a task to set music around it. Other times it was a melody in search of words wich could be an equally daunting task.

Music is an artform as it's creation. I don't know if there is any predesignated manner or common way in which to create a song.

If there was a sort of topic to the song it could be done

I'm going by all the bands I've listened to and them saying that the lyrics are often written last, not by one song writer. Obviously there are exceptions.

I was referring to lyrics being an addition, they're not normally written first because a lot of the vocalists I listen to are reactive artists. They write after being inspired by the music.

I agree it goes both ways though, just not from my experience.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm going by all the bands I've listened to and them saying that the lyrics are often written last, not by one song writer. Obviously there are exceptions.

I was referring to lyrics being an addition, they're not normally written first because a lot of the vocalists I listen to are reactive artists. They write after being inspired by the music.

I agree it goes both ways though, just not from my experience.

-AC

Are you a musician?

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Are you a musician?

What makes you ask that? Seems like a bit of a random question. I primarily write lyrics now.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What makes you ask that? Seems like a bit of a random question. I primarily write lyrics now.

-AC

No reason. Just curious

You? (A Musician)

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You? (A Musician)

-AC

Nope

Well, saying that lyrics are commonly written last, and saying that "in my experience and the bands that I listen to, I believe that lyrics are commonly written last are two different things.

I used one songwriter as an example, as you use the bands that you like as another example. I don't believe there are exceptions one way or another as the creative process is binded by few rules that would dictate what is normal or an exception.

Yes, writers are inspired by their music, but it would be a fairly one dimensional artist that is only inspired by their own music, or restricts their lyrics or music to a mere process. Writers are also inspired and affected by the music of others, books, experiences, people, politics and so much more.

Well obviously if every artist/s I've encountered (which is a lot) write their lyrics last then to me it's that they're commonly written last. Not just ones I like.

I'm not saying that's how it always happens.

-AC

Wow, every artist you have encountered writes the same way? Perhaps you need a little more variety in your music?

Lyrics tend to lack the completeness of poetry.

In much the same way that an instrumental will be more musical than a vocal-inclusive song through compensation, so do lyrics have the same luxury.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Lyrics tend to lack the completeness of poetry.

In much the same way that an instrumental will be more musical than a vocal-inclusive song through compensation, so do lyrics have the same luxury.

Well said.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Wow, every artist you have encountered writes the same way? Perhaps you need a little more variety in your music?

Where did you deduce that they write the same way just because I said they write lyrics last?

You misunderstood the context in which I said it. I was saying it in the context of IF every artist I encountered wrote the same way. Not saying they do.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Lyrics tend to lack the completeness of poetry.

In much the same way that an instrumental will be more musical than a vocal-inclusive song through compensation, so do lyrics have the same luxury.

😱 Viktor Vaughn!

As long as it's not rap.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
As long as it's not rap.

IMO rap has the most literature content