Literature in Music?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I wasn't referring to Bowie.

I'm not saying you were refering to Bowie. I was. It was a question.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I was under the impression that this was the point. How am I not understanding?

Read it again, he's making the same point.

You got the wrong end of the stick by assuming he meant that bad lyrics remove the quality from the music. He didn't.

-AC

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm not saying you were refering to Bowie. I was. It was a question.

My point didn't really suggest that about Bowie, unless you mean the independent point about bad lyrics.

I don't consider his to be bad enough to take anything away from my listening experience, and even if they did, I would still view the music in the same light in an objective sense.

Okay, when someone says that lyrics have the potential to add other dimensions to a song, but that they are often just compensation for musical shortcomings, are we refering to good lyrics or bad lyrics?

Well if they're compensation, they're not bad are they?

If good lyrics make up for bad music, SOMETIMES, then it's obviously compensation.

-AC

fair enough. now that I've made sure of the point. Can Vic give me an example of whos good lyrics are making up for their musical shortcomings?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
fair enough. now that I've made sure of the point. Can Vic give me an example of whos good lyrics are making up for their musical shortcomings?

Bob Dylan has always struck me as the main culprit. However, it's not really something I can answer myself as I don't hold the view in relation to any artists I like.

I see it applying when someone is a big fan of the lyrics while the music is clearly bad, and this is sometimes even acknowledged by the listener. It happens in hip-hop a lot.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Bob Dylan has always struck me as the main culprit. However, it's not really something I can answer myself as I don't hold the view in relation to any artists I like.

I see it applying when someone is a big fan of the lyrics while the music is clearly bad, and this is sometimes even acknowledged by the listener. It happens in hip-hop a lot.

Bob Dylan's music is not necessarily bad. Sure hoslyrics are enormous, although I don't agree with it but the music itself isn't that bad either. there are worse. Much worse.

I'm not saying it's bad though, I'm saying a lot of the acclaim rests on the lyrics, which isn't necessary when the music is amazing.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I'm not saying it's bad though, I'm saying a lot of the acclaim rests on the lyrics, which isn't necessary when the music is amazing.

Well on the other hand I also think that bad lyrics can spoil a song. Although lyrics don't always have such a great impact they have soe part in making a song good. By the way, is that the topic of this Thread at all?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well on the other hand I also think that bad lyrics can spoil a song. Although lyrics don't always have such a great impact they have soe part in making a song good.

I said pretty much the same above.

Originally posted by Bardock42

By the way, is that the topic of this Thread at all?

Not exactly, but the topic was dead and it saved me starting a new one for what I wanted to say.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I said pretty much the same above.

Not exactly, but the topic was dead and it saved me starting a new one for what I wanted to say.

Hmm then take that as agreement.

Okay. I can understand that. You are forgiven.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
So as not to start a new thread- do people generally gravitate towards lyrical content, or musical content?

I generally don't care what the lyrics of a song are, unless they're truly bad.

I think more people concentrate on the musical content more than the lyrics

I think it depends on the person.

In regards to Bob Dylan, I can't stand him. It has nothing to do with his lyrics or his music. It's his voice. I can't deal with his voice. Not only does his voice sound like a cat in a blender, but I can't understand him.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
In regards to Bob Dylan, I can't stand him. It has nothing to do with his lyrics or his music. It's his voice. I can't deal with his voice. Not only does his voice sound like a cat in a blender, but I can't understand him.

When it comes to understanding there are much, much worse than him. I'm not even a native speaker and I understand his words.
And I guess everyone takes his voice different I personally like it very much. But that's even with factually good singers that way. It depends on personal taste.

Originally posted by Bardock42
When it comes to understanding there are much, much worse than him. I'm not even a native speaker and I understand his words.
And I guess everyone takes his voice different I personally like it very much. But that's even with factually good singers that way. It depends on personal taste.

I like his voice, although I'll take Simon and Garfunkels lyrics anytime.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I like his voice, although I'll take Simon and Garfunkels lyrics anytime.

I like Simon and Garfunkel a lot and their lyrics are alright..but they are more trivial, Bob Dylans lyrics are amazing.

Because lyrics don't actually matter to me really, I don't care if I can understand what the voice is saying or not. How it sounds is more what I'm interested in.

-AC

Originally posted by Bardock42
I like Simon and Garfunkel a lot and their lyrics are alright..but they are more trivial, Bob Dylans lyrics are amazing.

I think you mistake triviality for being more based around the individuals needs and desires rather than the bigger picture.