Death Penalty

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I think that pun deserves a special AC snack with 20% more Soylent Green.

OK back on topic. Apparently standard protocol for a lethal injection is three successive injections:
Sodium thiopental followed by Pavulon followed by potassium chloride. None of these have any analgesic effect - so while the death may look serene, painless it isn't.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
As David Garland said, many methods are not adopted because they solve problems, but because they are conviniant.

Anyone who thinks that Death Penalty solves any kind of problem, doesnt in fact, think.

EDIT: Yes, I looked it up--sodium thiopental, aka sodium penothal (truth serum), is an anesthetic. Meaning that the person is unconscious during the lethal injection procedure. Sodium thiopental acts within sixty seconds of injection. I'm uncertain as to what it means when described as not being an analgesic. Perhaps it means that it has no pain-dulling effects when it wears off.

Originally posted by Cepheus
it solves just as much as a life scentence...
I'm not for death penalty, but if someone killed someone I loved, I'd like to know he'd die as well

Will killing that person bring your loved one? No. So whats the point.

In fact, why don't we just have 17th century blood fudes again - why have courts adn police at all if we're gonna practice eye for an eye.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Will killing that person bring your loved one? No. So whats the point.

It will make me feel better?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Will killing that person bring your loved one? No. So whats the point.

In fact, why don't we just have 17th century blood fudes again - why have courts adn police at all if we're gonna practice eye for an eye.

What's the point of jail time? The punishment isn't going to bring back your loved one. If the guy is tested and he is evaluated as not being a threat to the public, why shouldn't he just go free?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It will make me feel better?

A killer has loved ones too.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Will killing that person bring your loved one? No. So whats the point.

In fact, why don't we just have 17th century blood fudes again - why have courts adn police at all if we're gonna practice eye for an eye.

Courts and lawyers ARE necessary not only for deciding the punishment, but for the deciding whether the evidence is convincing enough to actually carry out the punishment in the first place!

Originally posted by Cepheus
No, it won't... but as barbaric as it might sound it would, at least me, bring closure.
Eye for an eye? are u mad? If an assassin kill a man's wife, should we kill the assassin's wife or the assassin himself?
Killing a man for killing a man's wife is NOT an eye for an eye

Courts and lawyers ARE necessary not only for deciding the punishment, but for the deciding whether the evidence is convincing enough to actually carry out the punishment in the first place!

Well no shit sherlock!

Thank you for explaining that, I think what you said was implied in my post. Sarcasm, perhaps, would be an ideal one to look up.

Death Penalty is barbaric, ruthles and cruel, and if you're gonna have death penalty, then that IS an eye for an eye and that IS the blood feud and that IS the 13th century world.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It will make me feel better?

And im sure the family of the person you sentanced to death would feel better if you were murdered.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Comeuppance, that's the point.

What's the point of jail time? The punishment isn't going to bring back your loved one. If the guy is tested and he is evaluated as not being a threat to the public, why shouldn't he just go free?

Perhaps the reason you say such thing is that you do not quite grasp the differance between justice and revenge. People should be reformed and given a chance - how are you gonna reform someone when you kill them?

And if you dont think reforming is the way out, then you obviously believe in revenge. Justice and REvenge are not the same.

i actually agree with lil bitchiness for once on this one.

I don't like or condone the death penalty i just pray and hope that i still have the same views, when someone i love for is killed.

Why are so many people against killing...If you believe in reincarnation you'll just come back as a Rooster, and be killed again, just like Hitler did....Only many times over as a chicken....so don't feel bad eating chicken....Your only eating evil people from their past lives.... 😂

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And im sure the family of the person you sentanced to death would feel better if you were murdered.

Perhaps the reason you say such thing is that you do not quite grasp the differance between justice and revenge. People should be reformed and given a chance - how are you gonna reform someone when you kill them?

And if you dont think reforming is the way out, then you obviously believe in revenge. Justice and REvenge are not the same.

Grammatical gaff aside, reformation doesn't exactly matter with a life sentence. There are those who deserve second chances and there are those who clearly do NOT deserve second chances.

Seeing as how DarkCrawler would not have been the one to sentence the murderer to death, it doesn't exactly matter. The murderer, by killing someone intentionally, deserves justice to be dealt to him, be it by a jail sentence or by death. Taking a murderer to court because he killed one's wife does NOT deserve justice to be dealt to him because, well, he's in the right.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Well no shit sherlock!

Thank you for explaining that, I think what you said was implied in my post. Sarcasm, perhaps, would be an ideal one to look up.

Death Penalty is barbaric, ruthles and cruel, and if you're gonna have death penalty, then that IS an eye for an eye and that IS the blood feud and that IS the 13th century world.

first of all, if you read carefully my posts I said I do not believe in death penalty, but I do understand people who do.
And that whole 13th century blood feud, i think we both know it's untrue.

Justice is a tough thing to come by.

It's not as hard to come by as common sense, which is anything but common. Even more ironic is the fact that all you need is common sense to find justice.

-AC

Originally posted by BackFire
Well, no prison is perfect, even the most maximum security prison won't be perfect, simply because humanity is incapable of perfection.

The same goes for wrongful deaths in execution.

Either way, mistakes will get made, and people will die because of them.

But, reguardless, as WD said, these discussions become redundant. And the only reason I stepped in is because you tried to equate an executioner to a serial killer, which is a flawed comparison.

I value the idea and concept of life more than I value individual lives.

-AC

So what does all that loftiness mean?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I value the idea and concept of life more than I value individual lives.

-AC

The bold-face liar award go's too..

ouch....I haven't read too many of AC's posts so I can't say I agree or disagree with that assessment

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I value the idea and concept of life more than I value individual lives.

-AC

Thats a funny read.......thats like saying I enjoy reading a book more then creating my own stories through living life.