Death Penalty

Originally posted by dadudemon

If you've ever argued this "death penalty" thing with anyone, you'd realize that the anti-death penalty Christians argue that it is murder and murdering a murderer makes you a murderer. That was my point and I figured that everyone would understand.

Funny enough these same people are often pro-war (by that I mean run in guns blazing and **** everyone).

Kill to show killing is wrong. It's all so cute 💃

Originally posted by dadudemon
You may think you'rr funny...but I plan on moving away from so many people as soon as I get enough credentials to get a better IT job.

If you've ever argued this "death penalty" thing with anyone, you'd realize that the anti-death penalty Christians argue that it is murder and murdering a murderer makes you a murderer. That was my point and I figured that everyone would understand.

No. Sometimes that can NOT be room for doubt. I'm sure you can think of some examples. And, no, kill the bastard even IF he can get out at 65. That was my point...I don't care about human life as much as others.

Hence my mentioning of the story. It is called 'The Bet".

I can see both sides and I am not sure what should be done at this point. My post may look like I am for the death penalty but how many people do you know give into that type of hate ALL the time? I mentioned it more for shock rather than to make a point for the death penalty side.

You go, boy.

Well, killing and murder are two different things, as fact. Would they be same Christian-retards who argue that abortion is also murder?

Here's a better idea, why don't YOU tell me some examples? Yes, yes, I see your "I'm a bad-ass, cuz I don't gives a shit about life.", I just don't believe it.

Well, when you hold the stance that you "don't care fro human life", it's an easy assumption that you're pro-death penalty.

Originally posted by Robtard

Well, killing and murder are two different things, as fact. Would they be same Christian-retards who argue that abortion is also murder?

That's normally the problem.

In discussions like this, all terms need to be laid out and defined and it rarely works that way; this often goes way off base in a "face to face" conversation.

Originally posted by Robtard
I call bullshit.

... how do you mess that up?

Originally posted by Bardock42
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16241245/

If you have one rotten apple in a barrel, do you throw out the whole barrel?

Originally posted by Robtard
If you have one rotten apple in a barrel, do you throw out the whole barrel?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, if it is a barrel that kills people.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Botch one life saving surgery and wind up killing the guy. You no longer perform life saving surgeries because of one botch?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, if it is a barrel that kills people.

Argumentum Ad Switchum

The argument was "is the death penalty as cruel,barbaric, painful etc." as a murder(er).

Originally posted by Robtard
Argumentum Ad Switchum

The argument was "is the death penalty as cruel,barbaric, painful etc." as a murder(er).

Originally posted by Bardock42
That was the argument, not the question though.

I do understand that you'd rather be stabbed to death than risk the small chance of a Lethal Injection going askew, thereby causing you more pain than a stabbing, and I still call bullshit.

Originally posted by Robtard
I do understand that you'd rather be stabbed to death than risk the small chance of a Lethal Injection going askew, thereby causing you more pain than a stabbing, and I still call bullshit.

That's never what I said though. I was just wondering if I know ahead of time whether it will be one of the lethal injections that blow balls big time.

Maybe something got lost in my posts (probably cause I didn't state it), so I shall repeat to explain what I meant.

Rob: "If you had to choose, would you rather be stabbed to death or go via lethal injection?"

Bard: "Generally lethal injection, as I believe it is on the whole less cruel and torturous, but in some cases lethal injection can be worse."

From what I have heard dying from injection can be real bad. They both suck anyway but ive heard alot of bad stuff about injections, it seems there are lots of cases where it takes a person to die a long time.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, if every life saving surgery kills a guy.

If I ever supported the death penalty, I would shoot a guy in the head. Solves all econmic and pain longevity issues.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Looking at this with contrast to the analogy the "killing a guy" is the "screwing up and causing the guy to suffer more" as the "killing a guy/botch is not the norm it should not be expected to happen everytime.

It is also analogous to "Kill one person every once in a while in a gang rape. You no longer gang rape people because of one death?"

It gives you the false premise that the death penalties are morally the same as life saving operations.

Though, even besides the point, my answer still stands, if every life saving operation on top of a possible botch also kills a person, then yes, even without the botch I would stop them.

Originally posted by chithappens
If I ever supported the death penalty, I would shoot a guy in the head. Solves all econmic and pain longevity issues.

http://newsfromrussia.com/society/stories/16-10-2007/98888-bullet-0
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3363442,00.html
http://www.tbnweekly.com/content_articles/051105_lle-03.txt
http://www.lvrj.com/news/13557332.html
http://wap.sun-sentinel.mlogic3g.com/news.jsp?key=13339&rc=local

Originally posted by chithappens
If I ever supported the death penalty, I would shoot a guy in the head. Solves all econmic and pain longevity issues.

The Chinese do that, or at least they used to, until the Death Bus came along.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm going to need more specifics on this potential solution otherwise I'll have to cite some examples of where it might not solve the problems you attempted to address...

http://newsfromrussia.com/society/stories/16-10-2007/98888-bullet-0
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3363442,00.html
http://www.tbnweekly.com/content_articles/051105_lle-03.txt
http://www.lvrj.com/news/13557332.html
http://wap.sun-sentinel.mlogic3g.com/news.jsp?key=13339&rc=local

Does not seem to need explaination.

Edit: Those are very rare. Hell if you want to be sure shoot more than once. Either way it's "quicker" and it hurts pretty bad. No way is 100 % painless if someone screws up but it is certainly cost effective.