Kicking the shit out being including thunderclapped in the first round and also going down?
He kicked alot of ass after Hulk woked up didnt he.
You didnt proved what im stating. When did he ever do that to : Savage Hulk, Thor and Immortal Hercules.
Using a weaker version that is below each of the ones i mentioned doesnt cut it, considering you have to explain how Logan can do the same to guys above him.
One he was losing in the end.
Show the examples that you said that illustrate it.
losing ? only hit beside 2 hulk got from hting wolverine when he dident want to fight. hulkd was clrealy not winning at the end either. wolverine never foughten thor he has foughten herc. and he only fought savage hulk with bone claws for two seconds. has death he almost killed savage hulk but then snapped out of it and held back the kill blow
"hulkd was clrealy not winning at the end either"
Read the issue.
"wolverine neevr foughten thor he ahs foughten herc"
He actually has "fought" Thor.
"has death he almost killed savage hulk but then snapped out of it and held bakc the kill blow"
Im not talking about amped version or else id use Hercules when he was amped "beyond godhood" way back by the HE, all the time.
Regular Wolverine its what i am asking. Its the one being used.
"didn't it already happen.. against captain america alone.. and didn't cap kinda hand thor his ass"
No.
"wolverine's nearly killed savage hulk"
Regular Wolverine? When and where. That he can cut guys at Savage level i know. Its the doing more that im arguing.
Yeah and he wasent a doll made by Apocalipse like Angel was before becoming Archangel, either.
Or are you going to argue that Apocalipses "Four knigts" wer never changed from what they wer.
"and I'm pretty sure it did happen like that with cap and thor... I remember distinctly cap had his shield above his head and was about to nail thor with it.. thor got messed up"
And still he didnt won.
Im waiting for the examples everyone keeps telling me they exist.
angel was given wings and such. if wolverien was given more why when they mention his up grade they never mention any thing besides that? also why would he al of a sudden lose those up grades if he had them? his body can never get down graded only up graded because his healing won't allow him to get slower and weaker then he is. he can only improve
So you have nothing right? If you miss in a comic, panels where Logan itself states his claws are losing the effect and that Hulk is getting the better in a round match, i dont expect anyone to find actual examples.
And Wolverine fought Thor in the exact same issue where Thing and Hulk wer killed. He died as well.
"angel was given wings and such"
He already had wings. They wer -changed- by Apocalipse. Like every knight he had was.
Originally posted by olympian
Yeah and he wasent a doll made by Apocalipse like Angel was before becoming Archangel, either.Or are you going to argue that Apocalipses "Four knigts" wer never changed from what they wer.
"and I'm pretty sure it did happen like that with cap and thor... I remember distinctly cap had his shield above his head and was about to nail thor with it.. thor got messed up"
And still he didnt won.
Im waiting for the examples everyone keeps telling me they exist.
it certainly didn't look like it from here.. hmmm
and I'm not arguing that apocalypse gave wolverine an enhancement.. it's just that EVERYONE confuses his enhancments for what they were..
his enhancement was his adamantium skeleton.. nothine else, nothing more..
people like to consider how wolverine fared against the x-men and say he was amped.. when I show him doing similar feats as wolverine, everyone calls it PIS.. there's no winning with you guys.. lol..
people also forget things like how he was rocked by jubilee and fared worse against cable than he did when he was in the x-men... hmmm
EVEN IF you were right... IF wolverine was indeed amped.. how come no one has been able to prove that either eh? hmmm maybe cause he wasn't.. but then again IF he was.. who de-vamped him? nobody.... so your argument against it wouldn't even matter as he would still have the so called enhancements...
i don't think you quite thought that one out too well....
Originally posted by olympian
So you have nothing right? If you miss in a comic, panels where Logan itself states his claws are losing the effect and that Hulk is getting the better in a round match, i dont expect anyone to find actual examples.And Wolverine fought Thor in the exact same issue where Thing and Hulk wer killed. He died as well.
"angel was given wings and such"
He already had wings. They wer -changed- by Apocalipse. Like every knight he had was.
his calws weren't losing their effect.. wtf? where is that stated? 🤨
he says hulk's getting stronger and healing faster.. which is something hulk does.. but not thor... hmmmm
Originally posted by olympian
And Wolverine fought Thor in the exact same issue where Thing and Hulk wer killed. He died as well.
I think thats the "What If?" everyone was talking about earlier.
People were saying "This is what would happen to Cap. Blah blah!"
And "This is what would happen to Wolverine. Blah blah!"
But they also said "Wolverine cant hurt or penetrate Thors skin with his claws."
Yet when it was mentioned that Wolverine injured his whole arm and eye with a slash, and the reply was "It was a What if."
Go figure.
"EVEN IF you were right... IF wolverine was indeed amped.. how come no one has been able to prove that either eh"
Since you arent even sure if he was actually or -not- it seems it isent cut clear is it.
The fact is Apoc always improves existing models. Angel is one, Hulk was another. All the other knights the same thing.
Find the comic where he appears and beats Hulk and then we can make it clear.
"Yet when it was mentioned that Wolverine injured his whole arm with a slash, and the reply was "It was a What if."
Go figure."
Even in continuity he has cut Hulk, Thing and the like. That is -not- what i am arguing here. Its the impaling/killing "ability" that some say he has done.
He has done that, yes but on a -weaker- (the weakest even) version of the Hulk who isent top tier. As good of a healing factor he had.
Cutting the top tier sure. More? Where.
Originally posted by olympian
"Yet when it was mentioned that Wolverine injured his whole arm with a slash, and the reply was "It was a What if."Go figure."
Even in continuity he has cut Hulk, Thing and the like. That is -not- what i am arguing here. Its the impaling/killing/total slashing.
When he has done yes but on a weaker version of the Hulk who isent top tier. As good of a healing factor he had.
I wasnt talking about you olympian, but others in this thread. Theres no doubt in my mind that Wolverine can impale Thor. Kill him? Not likely. Slah and injure? Without a doubt.
Hell... a kick from Yellowjacket stunned him and had him down for a bit.