First of all, this team isnt pathetic. If you are calling pathetic to captain america, spider man, wolverine and daredevil, so , you are the one who hasnt any knowlegde about comics.
Second, I cleared in some of my posts a little before the start of the thread that the battle was a clear fist fight, without magic, storms and rays. Because with that, the battle would end in two seconds. One ray over the team and the battle is over. To give some chance to this team, this has to be a clear fist fight.
And yeah, k3evil, thor did all those things of that list and more. But savage hulk has even a more impressive list of amazing things and the pathetic spidey and the pathetic wolverine give him troubles. So, if thor is so powerful, how on hell a kick of a human being like yellow jacket damaged him. YELLOW JACKET. who is much more pathetic than cap, spidey, wolvie or devil . Without his hammer and without the magic powers and storms, thor isnt a savage hulk or a juggernaut. This team could beat him.
Originally posted by bakerboy
First of all, this team isnt pathetic. If you are calling pathetic to captain america, spider man, wolverine and daredevil, so , you are the one who hasnt any knowlegde about comics.Second, I cleared in some of my posts a little before the start of the thread that the battle was a clear fist fight, without magic, storms and rays. Because with that, the battle would end in two seconds. One ray over the team and the battle is over. To give some chance to this team, this has to be a clear fist fight.
And yeah, k3evil, thor did all those things of that list and more. But savage hulk has even a more impressive list of amazing things and the pathetic spidey and the pathetic wolverine give him troubles. So, if thor is so powerful, how on hell a kick of a human being like yellow jacket damaged him. YELLOW JACKET. who is much more pathetic than cap, spidey, wolvie or devil . Without his hammer and without the magic powers and storms, thor isnt a savage hulk or a juggernaut. This team could beat him.
Nobody is doubting about thor strength or power. he has made impressive things. But without his hammer, he loses the half of his power. Plus, spider man, captain america, wolverine and daredevil has beat or did in their own against many people much more powerful than them. you are the ones who are underrating this team.
Dont be silly and arrogant. Im not a newbie, see my number of posts.
Second of all, that argument from you is bullshit. Who the hell says what is logic and what is crap in a comic book? To start with your logic, all the comic books are crap because the good guy always win over the bad guy, even if a much more powerful being. Clearly thor is much more powerful than those people. He is a god and they are only humans, very powerful ones, but humans or super humans. But man, power isnt all in a battle. Remember david and goliath? Remember vietnam? There are some things like tactic, intelligence, luck, situation, etc that could be definitive factors in a battle.
Originally posted by olympian
First lets get something clear here. It was you who said he wasent improved, amped whatever you like to call it. You said against what i stated as fact that Apoc does do that with his knights. Its not an opinion of mine, we know he does.
I agree he was enhanced.. i've already said this.. but only with an adamantium skeleton... nothing else was ever stated or mentioned... I did say he wasn't amped up.. cause he wasn't.. he was never said to have higher end durability or strength that he didn't have before.. all other apoc horesmen are stated to have their enhancements.. wolverine got his admantium back nothing else was ever said on the matter...
Originally posted by olympian
Therefore its up to you to show me If Wolverine was or -not- considering everyone is saying he beat Savage Hulk, something he regular wise never did. Show me why he was an exception to the rule.
he's not.. but you're confusing what was enhanced.. his skelton was.. nothing more...
it's not up to me to prove anything here.. you have to find proof that says he was enahnced in ways beyond what I've already stated.. again.. the burdon of proof is on you...
Originally posted by olympian
So without fudging, where did he beat Savage? Where are the scans.
Originally posted by olympian
Where i come from, when someone makes an IF comment its becuase he is not sure about a matter. You show not to be, because you cant even tell me in an accurate manner wheter he was or not.
I've already displayed all my reasoning and logic as to why he was not.. you have yet to disporve any of it... sorry again the burdon of proof lies on you.. I'm pretty firm in my belief that all that was amped was his skeleton.. but I'm humble enough to admit I may have missed a comic that STATED otherwise.. thus unless you can find this proof you have to concede that weither logan wasn't amped.. or that you believe he was.. and that he wasn't de-amped later on...
hulk has conceded to wolverine cutting him up.. how is that not cutting it for you? 🤨
"I agree he was enhanced.. i've already said this.. but only with an adamantium skeleton... nothing else was ever stated or mentioned"
Aye we are getting to somewhere. But that is exactly the doubt that remains. If he had only the skeleton back that means there was no diference at all compared with " regular " Wolverine.
That also means he was an exception to every knight Apoc had and that was enchanted, not only in weapons " Archangel new wings" but also physically " Hulk ".
Now you mentioned the issue, any change you post the scans of it? Im curious to see if he just plain beat him, wich regular wise he never did or if there was something that made a difference. Like the weapons he carried. That is what i want to see.
"hulk has conceded to wolverine cutting him up.. how is that not cutting it for you"
I already said he can cut/scratch the top tier.
Its the impaling limbs "easily" that i am discussing.
He did that to the weakest version of Hulk ever, that doesnt belong to that class.
fist to fist the group would have only a minor chance, still. and the battlefield is assumed to be a ring -- what kind of 'tactics' could they employ in a ring? the only threat remains wolvie. once thor takes him out it's all over. 1/10 the group wins, even fist to fist. and again, the comparisons to hulk STILL aren't appropriate -- thor is way faster than most think, much smarter and a much better fighter than hulk -- and damn near as strong. and while he may not have hulk's healing, he IS immortal and can only be 'killed' by MASSIVE amounts of damage, damage these guys are incapable of dishing out.
sorry baker, just don't see it. ❌
Originally posted by olympian
"I agree he was enhanced.. i've already said this.. but only with an adamantium skeleton... nothing else was ever stated or mentioned"Aye we are getting to somewhere. But that is exactly the doubt that remains. If he had only the skeleton back that means there was no diference at all compared with " regular " Wolverine.
yes there was.. the regular wolverine AT THE TIME only had a bone skeleton... havig an adamantium one is quite a big difference...
Originally posted by olympian
That also means he was an exception to every knight Apoc had and that was enchanted, not only in weapons " Archangel new wings" but also physically " Hulk ".
not at all
physically😖keleton
weapons: adamantium sword, and cloaking device.
Originally posted by olympian
Now you mentioned the issue, any change you post the scans of it? Im curious to see if he just plain beat him, wich regular wise he never did or if there was something that made a difference. Like the weapons he carried. That is what i want to see.
I've posted this fight several times.. I believe it's in the wolverine/venom and wolverine misconceptions thread go have a looksy...
QUOTE=5174988]Originally posted by olympian
Its the impaling limbs "easily" that i am discussing.
He did that to the weakest version of Hulk ever, that doesnt belong to that class. [/QUOTE]
he also did it to savage hulk twice (off the top of my head).. and did it once with bone claws to savage hulk's junk... in the issues I've mentioned earlier...
Originally posted by Arahan
Hey this topic has 8 pages now? But if you consider
that Cre and Jin are here then it is not that suprising.Thor wins. Is this so hard to accept?
cause thor's had his butt nearly handed to him by captain america alone..
and he was humiliated by spiderman too (or at least that's what I've been told)..
Originally posted by jinzin
cause thor's had his butt nearly handed to him by captain america alone..and he was humiliated by spiderman too (or at least that's what I've been told)..
That was Eric masterson Thor, the real Thor was fighting the celestial "Exitar" $ Areshim.
People let's be real here, Thor is a thunder god a freaking God whose powers dwarf majority of earth superheroes and villains. His fighting ability is ridiculous he has taken his brother Tyr "god of war "out in h2h combat and he was consider one of Asgard great warriors, Thor was running so fast Hela a goddess couldn't see him and he was toying with her. Thor will take out spiderman so fast his spider sense wouldn't do jack sh** it will be to late. Thor will just fart on the rest of them and they will all die.
Originally posted by the Darkone
That was Eric masterson Thor, the real Thor was fighting the celestial "Exitar" & Areshim.People let's be real here, Thor is a thunder god a freaking God whose powers dwarf majority of earth superheroes and villains. His fighting ability is ridiculous he has taken his brother Tyr "god of war "out in h2h combat and he was consider one of Asgard great warriors, Thor was running so fast Hela a goddess couldn't see him and he was toying with her. Thor will take out spiderman so fast his spider sense wouldn't do jack sh** it will be to late. Thor will just fart on the rest of them and they will all die.
Originally posted by the Darkone
That was Eric masterson Thor, the real Thor was fighting the celestial "Exitar" $ Areshim.People let's be real here, Thor is a thunder god a freaking God whose powers dwarf majority of earth superheroes and villains. His fighting ability is ridiculous he has taken his brother Tyr "god of war "out in h2h combat and he was consider one of Asgard great warriors, Thor was running so fast Hela a goddess couldn't see him and he was toying with her. Thor will take out spiderman so fast his spider sense wouldn't do jack sh** it will be to late. Thor will just fart on the rest of them and they will all die.
ahh I see...
hmm i'm still struggling in my desicion.. people keep saying that these character's can't do enough damage to thor.. and I really don't think that's true at all.. one punch to the face, throat, heart, balls, neck, etc from wolvie etc basically ends this fight...
captain america can severe adamantium alloyed covered robotic heads with his shield...
spiderman and dd can give him a hell of a frustrating time playing rabbit...