Iceman COULD win. The thing is, characters, when they fight alone, tend to be far more self-reliant and therefore resourceful than they would otherwise. Kind of like the time Iceman fought Magneto by himself and lasted MUCH longer against him than he ever did fighting alongside the X-men. So Iceman not being able to beat the Hulk along with several other X-men doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't do it fighting on his own - he knows that nobody's got his back, so he's going to do things he might not otherwise do with the whole team - like freeze Hulk from the inside out. There isn't a lot that Hulk can do to Iceman - he can exist as water vapour.
I give this one to Iceman when he's fighting to his potential (which is what you're supposed to do on this board).
Originally posted by demigawd
There isn't a lot that Hulk can do to Iceman -
😕 ummmm...A 100 ton fist dropped on the skull would get the job done.
Your statement would be true if you reverse the names. Dude, Ice man would be laid out with one punch from the Hulk. Seriously, how is Ice going to stop the Hulk?
Silly - Hulk is just a brick - he can't do anything to Iceman because Iceman can't be physically destroyed. And Hulk's resistence to low temperatures doesn't mean anything - Iceman isn't making it COLD around Hulk, he's not hitting Hulk with ice, he's freezing Hulk's blood. No matter how strong you are, ain't no getting around that. And radiation isn't hot....Hulk isn't a microwave oven, lol. It's just radiation - it doesn't melt ice.
Hulk, fighting at "max" wouldn't kill all the X-men in minutes. He wouldn't kill them at all. You keep forgetting that Hulk is just a brick - he just punches stuff. That's hardly versatile enough to take out all of the X-men, no matter how hard his "max" punches.
Sorry, Iceman still takes this.
radiation absolutley can melt ice....... what do you think people are talking about when they say the ice caps are melting? every ounce of heat that comes from the sun is radiation......... didn't you see the issue of hulk, just after the Onslaught story, where his body emits so much radiation that no one, even in protective gear, can get within 50 feet of him..... then one guy takes off his helmet and gets melted from around that distance
If I didn't know better, I'd say that last sentence was supposed to be a fact.
Luckily I do. So I can say "Sorry, he doesn't. Hulk does."
Starting off your post saying "Silly" to us and then going on to say "Hulk just punches stuff" is a contradiction, in a way. Ice-Man literally just freezes stuff, my freezer does too. Ice-Man just does it faster. Hulk "just" punches with unparelleled force and power. It's a punch, hardly "just" a punch.
The very fact that Ice-Man now "can't be physically destroyed" says it all.
So, sorry, Hulk still takes this.
-AC
ok, let me clarify...GAMMA radiation doesn't melt ice. Radiation is a pretty vague term, like "energy". There are all different kinds of radiation, all along the EM spectrum, but only some of it generates heat. Gamma isn't one of them.
Hulk, after the Onslaught storyline was radiation extradimensional energies from counter-Earth. That's not in play here.
Iceman doesn't just freeze stuff - he controls molecular speeds. He's able to slow the spinning of molecules, which causes a freezing effect. Hulk has no defense against that whatsoever becauuuuuuse....he just punches stuff! He can punch stuff hard enough to destroy mountains, but he just punches stuff. He has no defense against his molecules being essentially stopped (frozen).
Iceman, on the other hand, can just stand there and say, "give me your best shot". Hulk does so, and Iceman shatters into a million pieces. A billion pieces. A trillion pieces. But he's still fine, because that doesn't kill him or even knock him out.
So you see...Hulk just punches stuff, and just punching stuff ain't gonna do the trick against Iceman.
Iceman freezes things at a molecular level, and that does just the trick against Hulk.
So sorry again, Iceman still takes this.
Originally posted by demigawd
ok, let me clarify...GAMMA radiation doesn't melt ice. Radiation is a pretty vague term, like "energy". There are all different kinds of radiation, all along the EM spectrum, but only some of it generates heat. Gamma isn't one of them
Gamma radiation doesn't create big green super-monsters either..... but in comics it does, so in the world of marvel you can't say for definite that hulks body wont be "unfreezable"