Zoom II with the Cytorrak Gem vs. Marvel Earth
No prep for Marvel Earth. Zoom II has full access to any and all information regarding the Marvel Earth. He has four weeks of prep. Lex Luthor, Pre-Crisis Darkseid, and Brainiac are helping him with prep. Marvel Earth has ABSOLUTELY no warning whatsoever of Zoom's presence, plans, nor intentions to attack Marvel Earth. Cosmic awareness be damned. Just how f***ed is Marvel Earth? Can they win?
Re: Zoom II with the Cytorrak Gem vs. Marvel Earth
Originally posted by Draco69
No prep for Marvel Earth. Zoom II has full access to any and all information regarding the Marvel Earth. He has four weeks of prep. Lex Luthor, Pre-Crisis Darkseid, and Brainiac are helping him with prep. Marvel Earth has ABSOLUTELY no warning whatsoever of Zoom's presence, plans, nor intentions to attack Marvel Earth. Cosmic awareness be damned. Just how f***ed is Marvel Earth? Can they win?
Ummmmm no ! 🙁
Not unless Longshot inherits the UNi power ??????????? ...... guys help me out. 🙂
I don't see anything in Zoom's arsenal (even with the gem) capable of taking out Strange. Strange goes toe to toe with Eternity and can resist the effects of the infinity gems. Zoom isn't on that level.
Also IIRC, Strange has auto defenses up around his person and residence AT ALL TIMES that brute force wouldn't be sufficient to break through. What's to stop strange from sitting in his mansion and punking zoom at a distance?
Interesting matchup tho. I'd pay good money to see this fight in print.
I don't see anything in Zoom's arsenal (even with the gem) capable of taking out Strange. Strange goes toe to toe with Eternity and can resist the effects of the infinity gems. Zoom isn't on that level.
Also IIRC, Strange has auto defenses up around his person and residence AT ALL TIMES that brute force wouldn't be sufficient to break through. What's to stop strange from sitting in his mansion and punking zoom at a distance?
Interesting matchup tho. I'd pay good money to see this fight in print.
**edit** the gem of cyttorak doesn't grant instant invincibility. It grants indeterminate class 100 strength (which in terms of hitting power, zoom should have anyway) a force shield, does away with the need to eat or breathe, grants a super healing factor, resistance to physical damage (though not invincibility...juggy got cut up by shatterstar, though healed back pretty fast), and the ability to not be stopped when moving forwards (though you can be slowed considerably..i.e. down to a crawl)
It won't prevent against magic from a greater source of power than cyttorak (which strange has plenty of..hell, strange can call on cyttorak when he wants to) psychic assaults (onslaught just ripped the gem out of him and imprisoned him IN it) or whatever it was that nimrod did to him that messed up his nervous system. *whew*
Originally posted by Draco69
Warlock is on Earth? Since when? Do cosmics ever visit another planet?Zoom can beat Strange...by using a specially-designed astral-form nullifer that enables him to attack astral forms. And barriers are meant to be broken.
Zoom II can dimension-hop as well.
Originally posted by Draco69
Warlock is on Earth? Since when? Do cosmics ever visit another planet?
Since he came from Earth. Duh, the HIVE. Since, his base is on Monster Island.
Zoom can beat Strange...by using a specially-designed astral-form nullifer that enables him to attack astral forms. And barriers are meant to be broken.[quote]
Zoom II can dimension-hop as well. [/B]
Into what dimension? There's various dimensions. And I'd like to see him travel into the Dark Dimension where next to nothing is none by him. Strange, however, does. Or the realm of Muspelheim and battle Strange in that environment. How's about Mephisto's realm? Neither Zoom nor Strange will be welcomed, but atleast the Meph knows Strange and Strange knows how to deal with Mephisto. Zoom doesn't want a piece of Mephisto.
Gee, I'd like to see Zoom trying to attack Strange while he's devising a plan or asking for a tricket in Agamotto's realm.
Strange simply has too many options for Zoom. Strange wins here, with the rest of marvel earth sitting this one out on the sidelines eating crackerjacks.
It also occurs to me that Graviton could crush zoom through sheer force of will from anywhere on earth-or from orbit-if he was so inclined.
He could render him helpless to even move, use gravity to crush him into the earth's core...fling him into space...
IIRC, He held every hero on Marvel Earth suspended and/or unable to move while simultaneously rearranging the continents into a reflection of his own face.
His own personal gravity/density also makes him insanely resistant to even the strongest of physical attacks, should zoom manage to get the drop on him first.
I don't see Zoom posing much of a problem to him, either.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Since he came from Earth. Duh, the HIVE. Since, his base is on Monster Island.
Ah. Learned something new.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Into what dimension? There's various dimensions. And I'd like to see him travel into the Dark Dimension where next to nothing is none by him. Strange, however, does. Or the realm of Muspelheim and battle Strange in that environment. How's about Mephisto's realm? Neither Zoom nor Strange will be welcomed, but atleast the Meph knows Strange and Strange knows how to deal with Mephisto. Zoom doesn't want a piece of Mephisto.
Phantom Zone. Dimension of Starhearts. Etc.
Mephisto? Bah. Zoom will just use the Spear of Destiny.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Gee, I'd like to see Zoom trying to attack Strange while he's devising a plan or asking for a tricket in Agamotto's realm.
No. I was thinking the more logical choice where Strange is bonked in the same timeframe he kills just about everyone else on Earth
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Strange simply has too many options for Zoom. Strange wins here, with the rest of marvel earth sitting this one out on the sidelines eating crackerjacks.
Do you even know who Zoom is? This guy's makes the Flash look like a snail.
How is Strange even gonna know he's being attacked? Or the rest of the world for that matter?
Originally posted by Space M ummy
It also occurs to me that Graviton could crush zoom through sheer force of will from anywhere on earth-or from orbit-if he was so inclined.
He could render him helpless to even move, use gravity to crush him into the earth's core...fling him into space...
Won't work. Gravity doesn't affect Zoom. He can just zip into the timestream.
And again, HOW will Gravitron even know that Zoom exists?
Zoom on his own managed to punch people from continent to continent. Imagine what would happen if he had the Gem.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
He could render him helpless to even move, use gravity to crush him into the earth's core...fling him into space...[QUOTE=5172294]Originally posted by Space M ummy
[B] His own personal gravity/density also makes him insanely resistant to even the strongest of physical attacks, should zoom manage to get the drop on him first.
Immune to a 1000 times faster than light punch from A high-end Class 100 character. Yeah....
Originally posted by Space M ummy
I don't see Zoom posing much of a problem to him, either.
Again. Do you even know who Zoom is?