Zoom II with the Cytorrak Gem vs. Marvel Earth

Started by jrodslam6 pages

Originally posted by long pig
Being hit with an attack that K.O's the Silver Surfer? And he survives? How? Me no undtertantsd

Ah, auto shields.

Haha! LP That attacked ko'd Strange too. Plus Surfer go hit right after the hit from Absorbing man. They were all meant to survive. Was that attack supposed to kill Strange? No it wasnt. The scan you posted proves my point even further. No auto shield went up. Stranges ass was ko'd.

Originally posted by kgkg
Deathurge already lost to SS

Did his arrows ever touch Surfer?

They supposedly kill anything/everything. Even cosmic types.

Originally posted by long pig
Did his arrows ever touch Surfer?

They supposedly kill anything/everything. Even cosmic types.


the battle went something like this.

SS use his power cosmic. ------------- guy just laughs at it
death ------- arrows -------- SS uses faster than light speed

SS gets pissed speedblitz his ass.

end of story

Originally posted by jrodslam
Haha! LP That attacked ko'd Strange too. Plus Surfer go hit right after the hit from Absorbing man. They were all meant to survive. Was that attack supposed to kill Strange? No it wasnt. The scan you posted proves my point even further. No auto shield went up. Stranges ass was ko'd.

You don't have a point, how can you? You don't understand the topic.

Strange=Human
Human body=Frail
Strange's body=Taking hits that would turn any human into stains i.e Hulk/Surfer attacks.

How? Ah, auto shields.

Originally posted by kgkg
the battle went something like this.

SS use his power cosmic. ------------- guy just laughs at it
death ------- arrows -------- SS uses faster than light speed

SS gets pissed speedblitz his ass.

end of story


The point was that his shields blocked attacks that other cosmic types would rather not take.

Has either one of you ever read a Strange comic? Not a app in spiderman or Defenders, but a solo Strange comic?

Originally posted by long pig
The point was that his shields blocked attacks that other cosmic types would rather not take.

I was just defending SS

When you said that guy would punk SS.

But SS punked him 😉

man how many time have you seem Strange suck up to Surfer? 😄

as for autoshield i beileve he has some sort of Strong defence you can call it shield or whatever , that protects him to some degree. ( but not like the ones your thinking protect him from everything)

i beilve it gives him a lot more resistance to attack ( at cosmic level)

if not Strange whould have been dead already. because he has been hit too many times by cosmic forces.

Originally posted by kgkg
I was just defending SS

When you said that guy would punk SS.

But SS punked him 😉

man how many time have you seem Strange suck up to Surfer? 😄

as for autoshield i beileve he has some sort of Strong defence you can call it shield or whatever , that protects him to some degree. ( but not like the ones your thinking protect him from everything)

i beilve it gives him a lot more resistance to attack ( at cosmic level)

if not Strange whould have been dead already. because he has been hit too many times by cosmic forces.

It's kind of silly to think he DOESN'T have enchantments 24/7 if you've ever read about him.

I never said it'd take all the damage, I even posted pics of him being K'O'd by Creel. The reason was to show durability that isn't the norm.

A normal human would die in space, Strange doesn't, hell, he talks in space.

The point is, Strange has a high durability, not perfect or unbreakable, but never defenseless.

Ahh good ol auto shields.

Originally posted by long pig
It's kind of silly to think he DOESN'T have enchantments 24/7 if you've ever read about him.

I never said it'd take all the damage, I even posted pics of him being K'O'd by Creel. The reason was to show durability that isn't the norm.

A normal human would die in space, Strange doesn't, hell, he talks in space.

The point is, Strange has a high durability, not perfect or unbreakable, but never defenseless.

i agree

Originally posted by kgkg
as for autoshield i beileve he has some sort of Strong defence you can call it shield or whatever , that protects him to some degree. ( but not like the ones your thinking protect him from everything)

i beilve it gives him a lot more resistance to attack ( at cosmic level)

if not Strange whould have been dead already. because he has been hit too many times by cosmic forces.

Thats what im saying to a degree. It doesnt protecting from getting ko'd on many occasions. thats why its not 24/7.

Gl's are also supposed to have 24/7 auto shields, but thats mainly for life threatening attacks. Gls have also been ko'd on occasions.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ahh good ol auto shields.


Ah, good ol' reading comprehension.

Originally posted by long pig
I never said it'd take all the damage, I even posted pics of him being K'O'd by Creel. The reason was to show durability that isn't the norm.

When hit from Creel, it was supposed to knock him out. It did its job. True hes withstood more devastating attacks before, but that just shows that its kinda selective.

Originally posted by long pig
A normal human would die in space, Strange doesn't, hell, he talks in space.

Via enchantment. I understand that. No arguement there.

Originally posted by long pig
The point is, Strange has a high durability, not perfect or unbreakable, but never defenseless.

Hes been caught off guard before and knocked out. If that can happen then hed be defenseless, yes? Defenseless to protect himself. One would be naive to think otherwise. Or blind.

Originally posted by kgkg
I was just defending SS

When you said that guy would punk SS.

But SS punked him 😉

man how many time have you seem Strange suck up to Surfer? 😄

as for autoshield i beileve he has some sort of Strong defence you can call it shield or whatever , that protects him to some degree. ( but not like the ones your thinking protect him from everything)

i beilve it gives him a lot more resistance to attack ( at cosmic level)

if not Strange whould have been dead already. because he has been hit too many times by cosmic forces.


You know Surfer got K.O'd by one hit from Karnak, right? 😈

Originally posted by jrodslam
When hit from Creel, it was supposed to knock him out. It did its job. True hes withstood more devastating attacks before, but that just shows that its kinda selective.

Via enchantment. I understand that. No arguement there.

Hes been caught off guard before and knocked out. If that can happen then hed be defenseless, yes? Defenseless to protect himself. One would be naive to think otherwise. Or blind.


No.

Defenseless means no defence, Strange's autoshields are his first defence, therefore he isn't Defenseless.

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Even when Strange is K.O'd by say Absorbing Man or Hulk, he wasn't Defenseless, it's just his defenses weren't strong enough to make him invulnerable, but they ARE strong enough to keep him from dying.

Originally posted by long pig
You know Surfer got K.O'd by one hit from Karnak, right? 😈

what issue?

i mean people think getting hit is K.o'ed 😉

Shit, hold on.

Karnak owns.

Hah...

Originally posted by long pig
No.

Defenseless means no defence, Strange's autoshields are his first defence, therefore he isn't Defenseless.

LP, i agree that his auto shield are his first defense. However if hes taken by surprise, hes not able to put them up. If hes ko'd by surprise because he doesnt have enough time to put up a shield, then guess what? Hes defenseless.

Originally posted by long pig
Even when Strange is K.O'd by say Absorbing Man or Hulk, he wasn't Defenseless, it's just his defenses weren't strong enough to make him invulnerable, but they ARE strong enough to keep him from dying.

Strange wasnt defenseless when he was ko'd by Absorbing Man? He was totaly defenseless. The blow from Creel wasnt meant to kill him, so hed have no reason to die. Just because he wasnt "dead" after getting hit by Creel, you think he had up his auto defenses?

If Strange keeps getting ko'd by mediocre attacks that arent meant to kill him but yet keeps getting ko'd, then why doesnt he just put up stronger shields?

Karnak would **** Strange's shield up too. Whoever described Stranges "auto" defenses like a GL's shields was right ont he money. Writer wants an attack to fail, well hey lookit that his autodefenses just happened to be on. strange needs to get KTFO, oops, auto shields were down that day.

LP, i agree that his auto shield are his first defense. However if hes taken by surprise, hes not able to put them up. If hes ko'd by surprise because he doesnt have enough time to put up a shield, then guess what? Hes defenseless.

You missed the point completely. He doesn't HAVE to put them up. They are always up. They aren't indestructible, but they do make him tons more durable than a normal human. Do you honestly think a normal human could take a punch/ball & chain to the head from Hulk/Creel and survive?
Hopefully not.

If Strange keeps getting ko'd by mediocre attacks that arent meant to kill him but yet keeps getting ko'd, then why doesnt he just put up stronger shields?

Because no one would want to read about an indestructible hero, people who do, read something crappy. Like Superman.