Originally posted by long pig
God himself would have trouble breaking down Strange's barriers.
Now that's just exaggerating Strange's abilities.
Originally posted by long pig
How far back can Zoom go in time?
You don't understand. Zoom isn't like the Flash. He's displaces him self in and out of the timestream. Thus he can exist in the beginning of time itself.
Originally posted by Draco69
Ah. Learned something new.
Glad to help.
Phantom Zone. Dimension of Starhearts. Etc.Mephisto? Bah. Zoom will just use the Spear of Destiny.
No, no. I mean how's Zoom fighting Strange on Strange's turf? Especially, Agamotto's realm? Strange preps. for Zoom in another dimension like Agamotto's.
As for the Spear of Destiny, you sure it can take out Meph? Usually pure souls and mages beat Mephisto. Otherwise, Meph has stalemated Galactus and melted Mjlnonir on a whim just for kicks.
No. I was thinking the more logical choice where Strange is bonked in the same timeframe he kills just about everyone else on Earth [/B]
Not while in his house. Unless Zoom knows about everything in Strange's house? Both Surfer and Warlock were lost in Strange's mansion until Strange showed up. First hafta get pass defenses.
Just wanted to reply to a few things before I hit the sack for the night.
Once again, Strange (and Graviton, but he's less of an issue) have defenses that are PERPETUALLY on. Strange keeps the most powerful items in the Marvel U. in his residence and on his person. The Darkhold, The books of the Vishanti, they're all there. The spells he has up are sufficient to keep beings like Dormammu at bay. even going at lightspeed with class 100 strength, Zoom is *not* going to penetrate them.
Strange will know he's being attacked when Zoom immolates himself on his force shields like a bug on my windshield.
In regards to Time travel, the book of the Vishanti also includes a treatise on magical time travel. I'm 100% certain Strange is more than familiar enough with time travel to contend with Zoom in the time travel department.
Graviton is a similar case: I dont have time to cut and paste everything (work in the morning) but Graviton's personal gravity field makes him nigh invulnerable to physical attack. These fields are on ALL THE TIME, even when distracted, sleeping, or knocked out. Graviton has also done ridiculous things like increase his mass to 100x that of the mutated thing (stronger than the current version) with ZERO effort (he was simultaneously pinning down two Things and the human torch and dropping a skyscraper on all three of them) which, combined with his fields is more than sufficient to take a hit from a high class 100 character going at lightspeed.
Wonder Woman took a lightspeed hit from Zoom and while hurt, was still concious and able to stand. Now imagine Wonder Woman 100x as dense (or at 100x her defense, if thats easier) and you'll see where I'm coming from here.
Graviton is also globally aware of everything that goes on with the earth's gravitational field. He'll be aware of zoom's presence the instant he appears on marvel earth. and an instant is all he needs to react to neutralize zoom. How do you figure zoom is immune to gravity? Graviton can effect even intangible beings, and claimed to be able to stop the dimension of limbo from merging with earth single handedly through force of will during inferno, so extradimensional beings arent a problem for him either.
Check the Graviton vs. Magneto thread for some more info on him, he's a beast when properly written.
Zoom may be fast, and powerful, but sheer speed and strength alone arent sufficient to overcome every opponent.
You also specified Zoom with the Gem of cyttorak, not "zoom with every plot device in the DCU." I'm not sure where things like the spear of destiny are coming from...
Do you even know who Zoom is? This guy's makes the Flash look like a snail.How is Strange even gonna know he's being attacked? Or the rest of the world for that matter?
I'm not exactly sure what can beat Zoom, but how would he handle and Earth wide time stop?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Not true.
Still getting all your info on Strange with that one comic, huh? The Order sucked.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
He doesn't seem to be defending very well in that scan.
Won't work.
Strange has massive pre-cog, and if any time he is in danger of being killed, he gets a good ten minute warning as a sign of life on his forehead. He'd know a few minutes before Zoom attacked.
I mean, Zoom can always time travel, but so can Strange, probably better. And since Strange can't die, even if Zoom decapitates him, his astral form will still fight on.
Check out the Dr. Strange thread. Zoom's got nothing on Dormammu... Or In-Betweener... Or Shuma Gorath... Or Eternity... Oh, jrod, Strange has 24/7 auto shields on. 🙂
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=367940&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
People are forgetting that zoon has prep time and know all about marvel earth. and has Cytorrak backing him up
but how would he beat
Sentry, Quasar , CM , PF (a.k.a)(GS)?
Or MM
Other like strange won't have time , and will get K.O'ed
he would probably take most of the heroes down.
But higher cosmic heroes might be able to stop him
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Check out the Dr. Strange thread. Zoom's got nothing on Dormammu... Or In-Betweener... Or Shuma Gorath... Or Eternity... Oh, jrod, Strange has 24/7 auto shields on. 🙂http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=367940&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
Originally posted by jrodslam
No sir, he doesnt. 😄
I proved that point so hard that a damn Strange website has quoted me.
