Originally posted by Khellendros
Karnak would **** Strange's shield up too. Whoever described Stranges "auto" defenses like a GL's shields was right ont he money. Writer wants an attack to fail, well hey lookit that his autodefenses just happened to be on. strange needs to get KTFO, oops, auto shields were down that day.
Karnak gets no love here. 🙁
I mean, although that fight looks dumb, Karnak K.O'ing Surfer like that is well within his power.
Originally posted by long pig
You missed the point completely. He doesn't HAVE to put them up. They are always up.
He doesnt HAVE to put them up? They are alwyas up?
1. Strange - "I must quickly erect a mystic shield..." Ko'd
2. Surfer - "Strange had no time for defense..."
3. Absorbing Man - "See, your crummy shield is cracking..."
4. See pattern here?
Originally posted by long pig
Do you honestly think a normal human could take a punch/ball & chain to the head from Hulk/Creel and survive?
Hopefully not.
Daredevil did. 😄
He doesnt HAVE to put them up? They are alwyas up?
1. Strange - "I must quickly erect a mystic shield..." Ko'd
2. Surfer - "Strange had no time for defense..."
3. Absorbing Man - "See, your crummy shield is cracking..."
4. See pattern here?
The whole point was to say his durability is way higher than normal human due to his auto shields.
Daredevil did.
Originally posted by jrodslam
He doesnt HAVE to put them up? They are alwyas up?
1. Strange - "I must quickly erect a mystic shield..." Ko'd
2. Surfer - "Strange had no time for defense..."
3. Absorbing Man - "See, your crummy shield is cracking..."
4. See pattern here?Daredevil did. 😄
jrod don't you think Strange has some sort of resistance to attack? I mean sure he gets hit and yall , but most of the hits should kill them , or defiantly k.o a normal human
Originally posted by long pig
See, you're confusing his enchantment shields for his stronger shields.
His shields that are 24/7 aren't nearly as strong as say Shield of the Seraphim, but they keep him alive. i.e getting his back crunched by Juggernaut/taking a full on punch by Hulk/falling 100ft mid flight/flying faster than sound unaided/surviving in outerspace....etc.The whole point was to say his durability is way higher than normal human due to his auto shields.
Now you're just being a pisser. 😛
Ok ill just say this then im done with this arguement here. True Strange getting hit by Juggs, Creel, should do more than ko him. But thats only if the hit is truly intented to ko him. A 24/7 auto shield to me means that non stop you have a shield up. If you can gett snuck up on and punched by me and get knocked out, then ill call you auto shield garbage.
If an attack is made to kill Strange and hes unaware of it, then i can see a auto shield going up. Just like a GL. Ill post this pic to give something to think about. Good night.
PS. About DD taking the shot from Absorbing Man, LP. It happened. Ill be a pisser. 😉
Take a look.
True Strange getting hit by Juggs, Creel, should do more than ko him. But thats only if the hit is truly intented to ko him.
A 24/7 auto shield to me means that non stop you have a shield up. If you can gett snuck up on and punched by me and get knocked out, then ill call you auto shield garbage.
Originally posted by long pig
But, the difference between you and the people K.Oing Strange are they are 100ton bricks. You're not. If they can't kill him, you'd be lucky to make him flinch.
Did you see the scan above? They arent 100ton bricks. they are regular people, mind controled. Strange was caught by surprise then was ko'd.
You just proved my point. Strange says "He's protected against my sorcery by some sort of psychic aura". Meaning, he was able to bypass Strange's auto shields BECAUSE of the psychic aura. Strange's magic(His auto shields) got nulled.
Now, I shot that down easily enough, why didn't Hulk/Jug/Creel/Dormmamu/Mindless Ones just squish him?
Ah, Auto shields.
Originally posted by long pig
You just proved my point. Strange says "He's protected against my sorcery by some sort of psychic aura". Meaning, he was able to bypass Strange's auto shields BECAUSE of the psychic aura. Strange's magic(His auto shields) got nulled.Now, I shot that down easily enough, why didn't Hulk/Jug/Creel just squish him?
No no LP. The person Strange was blasting was the mage who mind controlled everyone. "He" is the bad guy that Strange was trying to attack.
The people who jumped him wer regular mind controlled citizens. Sorry LP nice try. 😄
Why didnt Hulk, Juggy, Creed squish him? If they tried to after he was ko'd they would have. However that wasnt the objective.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Ok ill just say this then im done with this arguement here. True Strange getting hit by Juggs, Creel, should do more than ko him. But thats only if the hit is truly intented to ko him. A 24/7 auto shield to me means that non stop you have a shield up. If you can gett snuck up on and punched by me and get knocked out, then ill call you auto shield garbage.If an attack is made to kill Strange and hes unaware of it, then i can see a auto shield going up. Just like a GL. Ill post this pic to give something to think about. Good night.
PS. About DD taking the shot from Absorbing Man, LP. It happened. Ill be a pisser. 😉
Take a look.
Originally posted by jrodslam
No no LP. The person Strange was blasting was the mage who mind controlled everyone. "He" is the bad guy that Strange was trying to attack.The people who jumped him wer regular mind controlled citizens.
Have you ever read an actual Strange comic?
He's downplayed in every comic he's in other than his own. Same with Surfer.
Reading the Defenders, no wonder you always argue that he's weak. He IS weak there, as is the Surfer.
In their own comic, it's far different.
That's why most people shouldn't talk until they get information from more than one source.
Originally posted by long pig
He's downplayed in every comic he's in other than his own. Same with Surfer.Reading the Defenders, no wonder you always argue that he's weak. He IS weak there, as is the Surfer.
In their own comic, it's far different.
That's why most people shouldn't talk until they get information from more than one source.
1 thing. Please dont put words in my mouth. Ive never stated that Strange was/is weak.
And regardless of its his own series or not, with the many Defenders sources i do have, i can make the statements i make. Even if i did own many Strange comics, i still wouldnt say he has shields up 24/7. Just for what my Defenders comics show.
Originally posted by long pig
You argued in favor of Zatanna against him, that'd make him no more than streetlevel.I just checked his durability stats at marvel.com and he's considered enhanced-human. Daredevil is normal.
I argued in Zatannas favor. So? Are yousaying that Zatanna can only beat street level opponents? That shows your ignorance there alone. With that i merely said it could go either way. Depending on what spell Zatanna was able to get off or vise versa.
His durability stats from Marvel that gives him a 3, isbecause of his so called 24/7 shielding or just because they decided to give him a 3? Electra has a 3 as well as Shadowcat. Even Spiderman who Daredevil ko'd. Whats your point?
Daredevil has a 2, yet was still able to take punches from Namor and Creel and shrug them off.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Here, Hal Jordan's auto-shield:DC's fake looking Thor takes Hal, Batgod trips up Thor.
Auto-Shields? Sure Jrod. 👆
Ok and if you can read back I said that Stranges shields are much like a GL's. They are auto for any type of life threatening attacks. Otherwise, they are open for knock out as well. Thank you for posting that scan and helping me prove my point.
