Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman did. He changed his tactic to win a fight. He also used his speed and other exotic powers while fighting. There is no one like Superman in Marvel. Ripoffs, yes but still different.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman is better then Sentry 👆.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hulk vs Supes:

Strength = about euqals. Both can rise it.
Durability = hard, both have low showings and high showings. Let's say, equals.
Speed = Superman, no contest.
HF = Hulk.
H2H = Supes, both are brawler but Supes knows some MA.
Superman can fly... Hulk can jump.
HV and Ice Breath for Superman... a unhealthy color for Hulk.

Honestly. Without the speed to match Supes, how can he even touch Superman, if he decides to fight smart?

Same way Doomsday, Lobo, Equus, Darkseid, Grundy, Konvikt, General, Despero do to Superman when it comes to fisticuffs. Same way Hulk does to Hyperion, Gladiator, Sentry when it comes to fisticuffs.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... Hulk has the strength edge. That's none debatable. I would give him the edge against blunt force as well. The rest of your post is right. CIS is a b**** though.

Hulk would kill him.

What are some neutral strength feats of Hulk's that Superman couldn't pull off himself?

By neutral, I mean things like lifting planets/mountains and the like. Not punching through person X's force fields and busting through person Y's armor - the types of things that only exist in the Marvel Universe and are thus incomparable.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Same way Doomsday, Lobo, Equus, Darkseid, Grundy, Konvikt, General, Despero do to Superman when it comes to fisticuffs. Same way Hulk does to Hyperion, Gladiator, Sentry when it comes to fisticuffs.

shhh... don't you know--evidence from books counts for very little round here nowadays.

Superman wins handily.

Originally posted by Cogito
What are some neutral strength feats of Hulk's that Superman couldn't pull off himself?

By neutral, I mean things like lifting planets/mountains and the like. Not punching through person X's force fields and busting through person Y's armor - the types of things that only exist in the Marvel Universe and are thus incomparable.

Grabbing one half of planet Sakaar and another half of planet Sakaar and holding the planet together with nothing but brute strength...a planet that wad twice the size of Earth.

Just for kicks, Hulk rammed an asteroid that was twice the size of Earth and was 100% afterwards after destroying it. Then he punched 2 beings that was at least a 100 ft tall a piece...he punched both of them out of orbit and took a large chunk of city with them and made them crash into a space ship. He also threw a big a** dragon from the Earth to the edge if the moon.

Originally posted by carver9
Now if you can show me a single scan of Superman combating at light then you'll have an argument. I can post Thor using the God blast in battle though, more than once.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...115613am7bx.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...124311pm3un.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...20mongul202.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/...ndmongul8pr.jpg

Your links are broken.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Here's proof that Supes is light speed, and is far faster than any DBZ/GT character.

Superman catching bullets with little effort. This is something the DBZ/Gt characters can do also though.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7786/08222005050314pm5fl.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/530/supermancatchingbullets2ww.jpg

Here's Superman reading at high speeds (something Goku or any of the DBZ/GT characters ever done).

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4955/superman1451ba.jpg

Superman fighting at high speeds.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/679/08222005124311pm3un.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9203/pics0017bn.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9558/supermanandmongul8pr.jpg

Here's Superman vibrating (phasing) his body so fast that hes going right through Doomsday Lightning/Fire Breath. This is proof that hes far faster than any DBZ/GT character.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg

Here's Superman vibrating his body invisible now, something they also can't do either.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/553/supermaninvisible44zc.jpg

Here's Superman calculating how fast to go on Earths Surface in populated areas. He also plug Lois them ears with cotton while he flew through.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9101/0869a916yt.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/704/08222005052719pm2ys.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8281/08222005052832pm2wo.jpg

Lois asks Superman for Champagne from another contry, and by the time she finishes her short sentence, Supes already got it, and has been waiting for a while.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5899/supespeed6kt.jpg

Superman traveling at high speeds in space.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1831/supermanhaulingassagain37xc.jpg

Superman heres GL (Kyle) about a million miles away from Earth in bed, and he gets there in seconds.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1954/08222005054558pm3oy.jpg

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2785/08222005054722pm5jq.jpg

Here's Superman taking Darksied to the sun in seconds. It takes light 8 minutes to get from Earth to the Sun.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5590/darksiedbeaten7sq.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6573/darksiedbeaten25ph.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/192/supermanbatman13pg08097cu.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1609/supermanbatman13pg109es.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5647/supermanbatman13pg114cl.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength3.jpg
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^ Carver take special note of Superman fighting at high speed links, and Superman fighting Darkseid taking him to the Sun in seconds. (As noted it takes Light 8 minutes to travel to Earth).

So that shows if Supes sees Hulk a big a threat as Darkseid He Will Fight Faster than Light Speed.

Also take note of him using his super speed to dominate Doomsday (A Hulkish type villain)

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

So which one of those are fighting at light? All of them?

Superman has been trained by Batman. Superman wins.

I digress it would be a stalemate due to how both characters are neither would win. Superman would have to kill Hulk, that's not his character he would try to knock him out.

Hulk has been capable of destroying a god-like entity with god-like powers but only after his safeguard Bruce Banner got shut down. Unless that happened Hulk won't go as far as trying to actually kill Superman.

Furthermore Hulk's anger is not like any other creature's anger. With Banner shutdown he HAD no anger limit. In addition he does not charge anger; as soon as he sees his punches hardly moving Superman or hardly hurting him and Superman punching him hard enough to send him a few frets will instantly get him to an anger to match him.

It would stalemate simply because neither could win the brawl. They'd probably get tired. Which might take a long long long time for both.

But Superman won't be able to win unless he kills Hulks, something Superman won't do, and a feat that upon itself is extremely hard considering Hulk has survived core solar temperatures, vacuum of space, nukes, PLANET SHATTERING IMPACTS, which kind of means he can easily whistand Supermans attacks since Superman has been de-powered from his earlier much more god-like incarnation.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Carver take special note of Superman fighting at high speeds links, and Superman fighting Darkseid taking him to the moon in seconds. (As noted it takes Light 8 minutes to travel to Earth).

So that shows if Supes sees Hulk a big a threat as Darkseid He Will Fight Faster than Light Speed.

So if I show Ironman carrying Void to the sun in seconds or Vulcan flying last planets in seconds, or Rogue flying from the moon to the xmansion in seconds, what does that mean.? How about this, let's get off of this topic before I get another warning. I'm going to let you win this one buddy but your argument wasn't accurate or didn't help you at all.

Originally posted by Badabing
Superman has been trained by Batman. Superman wins.

Lol.

Originally posted by Badabing
Superman has been trained by Batman. Superman wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol.

Originally posted by 753
Et tu, Badabing?

Training from Batman automatically bumps a character up several tiers.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Carver take special note of Superman fighting at high speed links, and Superman fighting Darkseid taking him to the Sun in seconds. (As noted it takes Light 8 minutes to travel to Earth).

So that shows if Supes sees Hulk a big a threat as Darkseid He Will Fight Faster than Light Speed.

Also take note of him using his super speed to dominate Doomsday (A Hulkish type villain)

And disregarding that, travelling at faster than light speed is not fighting faster than light speed. Darkseid was trading blows with him the entire way. He wasn't throwing FTL punches.

Doomsday Rex was pathetic. It's the only version that Superman's dominated and that can be directly attributed to the fear Doomsday Rex exhibited which somehow ended up stripping him of power. And if that sounds like an overly convenient excuse, I didn't write Doomsday Rex unexplainedly shattering his own knuckles on Superman's chest.

Since DD was brought into play and other which reaction speed > Hulk. DD Rex vs Superman was a good showing of how a serious Superman would treat the Hulk. 😄

Originally posted by carver9
So which one of those are fighting at light? All of them?

He doesn't even need the speed of light for the Hulk. A lesser speed like that against imperix probes or DD Rex is more then enough.