Originally posted by 753
tsc those scan show SM punking him the end carver
Lol... With help, crazy.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/329/generalvsjla12gu7.jpg/
Just let me win this. By the way, in that Grundy scans, Superman stated that he is changing tactics.
Originally posted by carver9
You are talking crazy.So you admit that Thor can take 10/10 against Supes via soul drain or God blast at the beginning of the fight?
Might be difficult when Supes is attacking Thor at Lightspeed. But if/when Thor does get a chance to hit Supes with a full on GodBlast, then yeah I think he can take Supes.
Originally posted by carver9
So you admit that Surfer can take 10/10 against Supes via going intangible and then creating a black hole in Supermans skull? Is this what you agree to or are we going to stop bringing up all of this fairy tale, never happened in a comic nonsense?Let me know buddy so I can surface the Surfer vs Superman thread.
Has Surfer demonstrated he can do that to someone on Superman's level(or above)? For example has he ever done that to Thanos? If not why not?
Either way I do think Surfer can defeat Supes quickly by turning the Sun Red, and draining Supes off his Solar energy.
But the big difference in both the above examples and what I said, is that you've given scenarios where both Thor and Surfer are trying to Murder Supes, and right at the beginning of the fight.
Thats possible, but I wasn't talking about Supes murdering the Hulk, just realising Hulk is so strong, that Supes should use his flight, speed and ranged attacks to fight him and possibly BFR him, in which case Hulk would not be able to touch Supes. Probably not even see him!
Originally posted by carver9
This will happen but its going to be far, far, faaaaaaar worse.
I cant scan a link, but if I could I would post Iron Man One shotting Hulk, and then say:
"This will happen but its going to be far, far, faaaaaaar worse."
Superman beat Grundy in the end. And Superman was young, he has become stronger since then. Superman would beat Hulk (the cheap Grundy Rippoff 😛) faster then he can say "Hulk Smash".
Honestly, without a slugfest I cant see the Hulk winnig, anymore. Take supes, speed his ability to fly and you have a fight and not a slaughter. 😄
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeLike Superman's "slaughtered" all the bricks he's fought before who only have superstrength, super durability, super stamina, super healing and enhanced agility to their name? Much less Hulk levels?
Superman beat Grundy in the end. And Superman was young, he has become stronger since then. Superman would beat Hulk (the cheap Grundy Rippoff 😛) faster then he can say "Hulk Smash".Honestly, without a slugfest I cant see the Hulk winnig, anymore. Take supes, speed his ability to fly and you have a fight and not a slaughter. 😄
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Like Superman's "slaughtered" all the bricks he's fought before who only have superstrength, super durability, super stamina, super healing and enhanced agility to their name? Much less Hulk levels?
Forum fight. And he can take Hulks shots to see that he has to rely on his speed to win this. Which he will do. Your point?
Even in a slugfest, he could probably stalemate the hulk, like Sentry did.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ My point is, when Superman actually does what you're expecting him to do on-panel, you'd actually have a point. Or heck, when someone like Superman does the same to Hulk.Superman ain't no Sentry.
I agree with you but the Full Capacity section in the forum rules pretty much states that Superman will use his speed to the best of it's ability in forum matches. In a comic Superman would fight the Hulk like he fights every other brick, and that is a fight the Hulk would win... but that isn't how a forum match would play out.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In a comic Superman would fight the Hulk like he fights every other brick, and that is a fight the Hulk would win...
Even then I doubt Hulk would win. It would be like the 1999 crossover where they both get their licks in but neither goes down.
Look if you want Supes to hold back (as in character) then fine this is a fight. But if he fights Even Half as fast as he's capable of, then this isn't even a fight.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ My point is, when Superman actually does what you're expecting him to do on-panel, you'd actually have a point. Or heck, when someone like Superman does the same to Hulk.Superman ain't no Sentry.
Superman did. He changed his tactic to win a fight. He also used his speed and other exotic powers while fighting. There is no one like Superman in Marvel. Ripoffs, yes but still different.
Superman is better then Sentry 👆.
Hulk vs Supes:
Strength = about euqals. Both can rise it.
Durability = hard, both have low showings and high showings. Let's say, equals.
Speed = Superman, no contest.
HF = Hulk.
H2H = Supes, both are brawler but Supes knows some MA.
Superman can fly... Hulk can jump.
HV and Ice Breath for Superman... a unhealthy color for Hulk.
Honestly. Without the speed to match Supes, how can he even touch Superman, if he decides to fight smart?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I agree with you but the Full Capacity section in the forum rules pretty much states that Superman will use his speed to the best of it's ability in forum matches. In a comic Superman would fight the Hulk like he fights every other brick, and that is a fight the Hulk would win... but that isn't how a forum match would play out.
CIS is part of the forum rules as well.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman did. He changed his tactic to win a fight. He also used his speed and other exotic powers while fighting. There is no one like Superman ihin Marvel. Ripoffs, yes but still different.Superman is better then Sentry 👆.
Hulk vs Supes:
Strength = about euqals. Both can rise it.
Durability = hard, both have low showings and high showings. Let's say, equals.
Speed = Superman, no contest.
HF = Hulk.
H2H = Supes, both are brawler but Supes knows some MA.
Superman can fly... Hulk can jump.
HV and Ice Breath for Superman... a unhealthy color for Hulk.Honestly. Without the speed to match Supes, how can he even touch Superman, if he decides to fight smart?
Lol... Hulk has the strength edge. That's none debatable. I would give him the edge against blunt force as well. The rest of your post is right. CIS is a b**** though.
Hulk would kill him.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Might be difficult when Supes is attacking Thor at Lightspeed. But if/when Thor does get a chance to hit Supes with a full on GodBlast, then yeah I think he can take Supes.Has Surfer demonstrated he can do that to someone on Superman's level(or above)? For example has he ever done that to Thanos? If not why not?
Either way I do think Surfer can defeat Supes quickly by turning the Sun Red, and draining Supes off his Solar energy.
But the big difference in both the above examples and what I said, is that you've given scenarios where both Thor and Surfer are trying to Murder Supes, and right at the beginning of the fight.
Thats possible, but I wasn't talking about Supes murdering the Hulk, just realising Hulk is so strong, that Supes should use his flight, speed and ranged attacks to fight him and possibly BFR him, in which case Hulk would not be able to touch Supes. Probably not even see him!
I cant scan a link, but if I could I would post Iron Man One shotting Hulk, and then say:
"This will happen but its going to be far, far, faaaaaaar worse."
Now if you can show me a single scan of Superman combating at light then you'll have an argument. I can post Thor using the God blast in battle though, more than once.
Ironman one shotted Savage Hulk... Savage Hulk doesn't exist anymore.
