Originally posted by IssacFrost
That isn't exactly factual evidence. Circumstantial evidence can be easily ruled out.Unless you can offer factual evidence anyone can dismiss that argument. Circumstantial evidence is not enough.
The evidence is clear to me just like the evidence that Gladiator and Hyperion are direct copies of Superman.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I don't give a rats ass about Booster Gold's statement, on panel evidence pretty much threw everything away. Because:
For someone who's claimed to have Flash level speed that's more than pathetic.Hell besides that 1 shitty statement I don't think anyone can deliver even the slightest evidence of super speed.
There is no mention of super speed in his arrays of powers. But he has considerably more speed and agility then his bulk would suggest. He was capable of grabbing Flash while in movement so his reaction is at least super human and he could easily keep up with any and all DC heroes including Superman.
Doomsday != Hulk
Fact. Doomsday can be killed or injured but once he revives or heals from that injury it won't work again. This is vastly different from Hulk's adaptability to survive not to become outright immune to previous attacks or develop new attacks to counter his enemies such as DD breathing fire at Martian Manhunter. They are vastly different. Hulk can develop gills to breathe underwater or survive space but that's not him getting outright immunity to whatever hit him.
Originally posted by psycho gundamGood job. This is what the pro Hulk posters should be showing. Yeah yeah, it's similar to the DOS DD arc, but still.
about the booster gold/ doomsday speed thing, it was a homage to this incident that occurred over years before "Death of superman" as doomsday is a direct rip-off of the incredible hulk:wonderman being the inspiration for booster gold, whom was "coincidentally" created the same time that issue came out. same month and everything
Originally posted by Zack Fair😂
Blitz these mofos. uhuh
This is my contribution. I don't care what anyone says, these scans show Hulk reacting to a speed blitz!
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Invalid comparison. Lobo legitimately has superspeed, he just rarely uses it. It's enough to have it listed in his powers in the Guide to the DCU though. 🙂
So my honest question is, do you treat Doomsday's speed every bit as crippling to his chances against Superman as you would Hulk's chances against Superman? Or Lobo's?
Originally posted by Juntai
Invalid comparison. Lobo legitimately has superspeed, he just rarely uses it. It's enough to have it listed in his powers in the Guide to the DCU though. 🙂
Superman once commented Lobo is "so quick" in one of his very first appearances and Lobo has spun around like the tazmanian devil. Color me skeptical.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Well superspeed by itself could mean just about any level vastly above human. Too vague. Hulk has 'superspeed' too.
Indeed. Matching Sentry who apparently has no weaknessess whatsoever. Also matching Thor who can apparently travel at subsonic and light speed. So Hulk has displayed super speed. But the point is it isn't stated whether his matching light speed which Superman does have.
If we where to go by feats Hulk without Bruce's influence overpowered and destroyed the physical manifestation of a god-like being on par with the Celestials: Onslaught. Celestials had no power limits capable of reality affecting powers which Onslaught apparently had as well.
I can't find Superman defeating an equally god-like being arguably Darkseid. As it was really Batman who shot him with the Radion laced bullet.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So Superman treats Hulk as if he were Darkseid now? That's simply an assumption I'm going to have to disagree with.
Ok, so your argument is Hulk only has a chance because Supes is going to seriously Hold Back.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And disregarding that, travelling at faster than light speed is not fighting faster than light speed. Darkseid was trading blows with him the entire way. He wasn't throwing FTL punches.
He was punching him all the way to the Sun in seconds.. How could those punches have been anything less than Light speed? If he's flying FTL, and Punching at the same time, how could those punches be anything less than FTL??
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doomsday Rex was pathetic. It's the only version that Superman's dominated and that can be directly attributed to the fear Doomsday Rex exhibited which somehow ended up stripping him of power. And if that sounds like an overly convenient excuse, I didn't write Doomsday Rex unexplainedly shattering his own knuckles on Superman's chest.
It doesn't matter how pathetic Doomsday Rex was. The point was Superman has no problem using his Vastly superior speed to tackle someone like that.
Originally posted by carver9
So if I show Ironman carrying Void to the sun in seconds
Well if he did it in seconds that would mean he's travelling much faster than light. But I dnt believe Iron Man can travel that fast.. Show me him punching while travelling at those kind of speeds and then you have an argument.
Originally posted by carver9
or Rogue flying from the moon to the xmansion in seconds, what does that mean.?
Moon is much much closer than the Sun.. Its not even comparable distance wise.
And again show me her punching while travelling at that speed, and then you have an argument.
And I dnt get your point? Are you denying how fast Superman is or something.. Can Rogue or Iron Man run, punch, build cities, read, think, react at anywhere near those speeds. Because we know Supes can, and I showed enough links of him doing that at least at Incredible, almost Invisible speeds (if not quite Light Speed).
Can Hulk fight anywhere near the speed Supes can? No, of course not.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERjet pilots cant move theri hands at supersonic speeds even when they are flying at supersonic speeds. the question is how many punches did DS throw and how many seconds did it take to treach the sun? than we can calculate
He was punching him all the way to the Sun in seconds.. How could those punches have been anything less than Light speed? If he's flying FTL, and Punching at the same time, how could those punches be anything less than FTL??
Originally posted by Badabinggood to have you back bada. Hulk can put up quite a fight
Good job. This is what the pro Hulk posters should be showing. Yeah yeah, it's similar to the DOS DD arc, but still. 😂This is my contribution. I don't care what anyone says, these scans show Hulk reacting to a speed blitz!
Originally posted by IssacFrostSM can sing at non-corporeal "abstracts" to kill them
Indeed. Matching Sentry who apparently has no weaknessess whatsoever. Also matching Thor who can apparently travel at subsonic and light speed. So Hulk has displayed super speed. But the point is it isn't stated whether his matching light speed which Superman does have.If we where to go by feats Hulk without Bruce's influence overpowered and destroyed the physical manifestation of a god-like being on par with the Celestials: Onslaught. Celestials had no power limits capable of reality affecting powers which Onslaught apparently had as well.
I can't find Superman defeating an equally god-like being arguably Darkseid. As it was really Batman who shot him with the Radion laced bullet.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well if he did it in seconds that would mean he's travelling much faster than light. But I dnt believe Iron Man can travel that fast.. Show me him punching while travelling at those kind of speeds and then you have an argument.Moon is much much closer than the Sun.. Its not even comparable distance wise.
And again show me her punching while travelling at that speed, and then you have an argument.
And I dnt get your point? Are you denying how fast Superman is or something.. Can Rogue or Iron Man run, punch, build cities, read, think, react at anywhere near those speeds. Because we know Supes can, and I showed enough links of him doing that at least at Incredible, almost Invisible speeds (if not quite Light Speed).
Can Hulk fight anywhere near the speed Supes can? No, of course not.
If you want to know the answers to these questions, PM me buddy.
Originally posted by Badabing
Good job. This is what the pro Hulk posters should be showing. Yeah yeah, it's similar to the DOS DD arc, but still. 😂This is my contribution. I don't care what anyone says, these scans show Hulk reacting to a speed blitz!
That punch Hulk hit Sentry with destroyed the entire city block.
Originally posted by 753
jet pilots cant move theri hands at supersonic speeds even when they are flying at supersonic speeds.
That's different. Its the Jet moving supersonic speeds, with the Pilot just sat in the Jet seeming like he's moving at normal speeds.
Originally posted by 753
the question is how many punches did DS throw and how many seconds did it take to treach the sun? than we can calculate
Irrelevant how many seconds. Just the fact it was clearly a matter of sceonds is proof it was way FTL. Light takes 7-8 minutes to travel from the Sun to Earth.
Originally posted by carver9
If you want to know the answers to these questions, PM me buddy.
Ok. Will do.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERnot different at all, the point is that DS could be flying faster than he was punching
[B]That's different. Its the Jet moving supersonic speeds, with the Pilot just sat in the Jet seeming like he's moving at normal speeds.
it isnt, actually. even humans can throw 6 blows in a single second. if it tooks five seconds to reach the sun and he threw 30 punches thats within human speed. now of course DS is faster than humans and so is hulk, but the point is that nothing about that incident shows that DS is as fast as SM or was throwing punches faster than light.
Irrelevant how many seconds. Just the fact it was clearly a matter of sceonds is proof it was way FTL. Light takes 7-8 minutes to travel from the Sun to Earth.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That's different. Its the Jet moving supersonic speeds, with the Pilot just sat in the Jet seeming like he's moving at normal speeds.Irrelevant how many seconds. Just the fact it was clearly a matter of sceonds is proof it was way FTL. Light takes 7-8 minutes to travel from the Sun to Earth.
Ok. Will do.
The feat isn't usable unless you are imply that Superman is going to bull rush Hulk near the sun and bfr both of them. During the blitz, Batman even had time to get up off the ground, tilt his head and look up in the air at Superman taking DS to the sun. It wasn't ftl but it was pretty fast though. I don't even think it took seconds like you are assuming unless you have proof because there really wasn't any specific time given.
