Batman-Prime
Kryptonian Scientist
Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk and WWH are not the same. Savage Hulk has his own personality...WWH IS Banner with complete control of his rage. Hulk has split personalities with different power levels. Savage Hulk...not talking about WWH...increased in power over the years. No character has remained the same, all of them received a power increase.The Probes didn't kill Wonder Woman mother...reentry did. She took out two before dying from REENTRY.
So you admit Black Lightning took out a Probe without dying.
Make a thread of Hulk/Thor/ Surfer vs the same Imperiex Probes Superman and Doomsday fought.
Carver, I think you are going a bit too far with your jokes, seriously, I feel like I would try to explain a rock that he won't grow wings...
Anyway, I will give this a last try. I will try to explain it as simple and clear as possible. Do me at least the favour and read it without bias^^.
Superman in OWAW wasn't a real match for the probes, he had to be better then his average to defeat one and even then he almost died, at least he was koed. The Superman who fought alongside DD, the Probe-Buster-Superman was, what you would call an not holding back superman, an Superman fighting to almost the best of his abilities. A CIS, PIS less Forum fight Superman. If he would be Hulk, it would be HOTM and you would love it and highball it^^. He was something you won't see regularly in comics, except if a fanboy writes it, like Loeb.
The same is true for WBH during Heart of the Monster.
Regular Hulk is like Regular Superman, they become stronger over time but they still are under the CIS effect.
Instances like OWAW or HOTM are rare and though they are written to the best of their abilities, full potential, the rest of the universe still suffers from PIS and CIS.
What you are doing in this VS thread is taking the HOTM Hulk for granted, at his WB levels and using an regular Superman against him, but this isn't how it works. You have to take both at their best or both at their average.
A char without CIS, PIS written like OWAW Supes or HOTM Hulk would be their euqal btw. Thor would become an raging, faster then c spinning Godblast-Gatling-Gun. Hal would be an Giant surrounded by Kronabusting Constructs. SS would be a bald nude guy on a surfboard in space creating Black holes in people asses.... I hope you get the point.
During OWAW Superman evolved beyond his "Heraldlevel" but not forever. Even then Imperiex Prime beat this anomaly and DD like an minior annoyance.
So Loeb had to sundip him to even push him a step further.
Hulk went from Savage to WB levels and was quite strong and was pushed even further by the wish.
It is however not their standard level. Well, else Hulk would destroy earth with two-three punches against another herald.
So don't lowball supes best or don't complain if hulks best ist lowballed by others. When you let them fight, take BOTH at their average or BOTH at their best. No double standard.
And Carv, honestly, I don't have to care but it's my last try. KMC needs people like you H18 or Quan, you provide the entertainment but if you want them to take you more serious, try to consider those points before posting and I know that your FamilymanHulk or Allfather Hulk makes perfect sense for you but if all others disagree maybe it would be wise to reconsider your point, just sayin. No offense.