Originally posted by eaebiakuyaThere is also a plot were the hero wins no matter what because he/shes the hero. This is a forum battle, no pre-determined outcome, superman can lose here in 2 " pages " because we take the " hero must win rule away in a forum battle ".
Dont use speed to avoid punches is "fighting in characther" ? Every time Flash is taged by slow people, means This is "in characther" ? Then, they are the dumbest heroes I ever seen...Super dont use super speed in all fights because the plot. He would beat the enemy in 2 pages instead of 10. It is PIS.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't. His energy discharge created one. Surfer has said that his powers can destroy galaxies or even the whole universe. Now that's true too since he said he CAN do that?
Him using his energy discharge to creat a black hole IS him creating one. Or are you saying that the energy discharge became sentient and decided to create a black hole on its own?
Kinda like Superman saying that he read every medical text in existence?
Or the doctor saying that Superman was lifting Earth-level weight?
hmm
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Him using his energy discharge to creat a black hole IS him creating one. Or are you saying that the energy discharge became sentient and decided to create a black hole on its own?Kinda like Superman saying that he read every medical text in existence?
Or the doctor saying that Superman was lifting Earth-level weight?
hmm
He didn't create it inside anyone's body. Surfer can create black holes, not inside somebody's body.
We saw them actually doing it. Surfer exclaiming something isn't a feat, its a hyperbole.
Originally posted by abhilegendWe saw supeman reading EVERY medical book?
He didn't create it inside anyone's body. Surfer can create black holes, not inside somebody's body.We saw them actually doing it. Surfer exclaiming something isn't a feat, its a hyperbole.
We saw superman benching the ACTUAL earth in that comic?
Originally posted by abhilegend
That is true but Superman has speed+HV to tip fight in his favor. Strength+Speed+HV>>Strength.
😂 😂 at heat vision. Also lol at Hulk only having strength.
You really think heat vision would do something to this version of Hulk? I'm guessing you seen him tank an attack that could melt adamantium? Lets disregard that. READ what this gun does and remember, this was classified as a THOR level weapon.
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot12_zps8d41b5d9.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
"Its real purpose was to rewrite MOLECULES ON A SUBATOMIC LEVEL using a SONIC VORTEX". Hulk tanks that crap. Not only tanks it, he is shot 5 more times with it without registering the attack. I can post more tanking scans but whats the point. Hulk is already a speedster, got super strength, da** near indestructible...by the time this fight is over with, all of that would have increased 10 folds.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't create it inside anyone's body. Surfer can create black holes, not inside somebody's body.We saw them actually doing it. Surfer exclaiming something isn't a feat, its a hyperbole.
There was already a loooong argument about the whole black-hole-inside-the-body Abhi. How about we just post the scans and let other people decide?
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-2612190
To all save Abhi (who's seen this scan before), notice the hand going into the guy's body on the 5th panel?
No, we saw Superman lifting some sort of funky machine weight and we saw him reading books real fast. The Scientist lady mentioned the weight in the former and Superman mentioned how many books he's read in the latter. Character statements corroborated the nature/magnitude of the "feats".
We saw Surfer open a black hole inside Airwalker in Annihilation. This is then corroborated by his character statements during In Thy Name where he expressively mentioned that he can "open singularities in their eyes".
Edit. A statement is only hyperbole if it has been determined via character history, implied power level and LACK of actual corroborative evidence proving that he is able/unable to do something. It is NOT hyperbole if the character in question has been able to do something similar in nature and magnitude to said "feat".
Originally posted by JBL
We saw supeman reading EVERY medical book?We saw superman benching the ACTUAL earth in that comic?
He was benchpressing a machine which was then stated to have the weight of earth.
Surfer exclaimed something out of blue with nothing to back it up.
Originally posted by carver9
😂 😂 at heat vision. Also lol at Hulk only having strength.You really think heat vision would do something to this version of Hulk? I'm guessing you seen him tank an attack that could melt adamantium? Lets disregard that. READ what this gun does and remember, this was classified as a THOR level weapon.
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot12_zps8d41b5d9.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
"Its real purpose was to rewrite MOLECULES ON A SUBATOMIC LEVEL using a SONIC VORTEX". Hulk tanks that crap. Not only tanks it, he is shot 5 more times with it without registering the attack. I can post more tanking scans but whats the point. Hulk is already a speedster, got super strength, da** near indestructible...by the time this fight is over with, all of that would have increased 10 folds.
Superman's HV punched a hole in OMAC and nearly killed him just after he was stated to be stronger than superman.
I know you are too giddy at this point because you can post scans but don't spoil your pants just yet.
Originally posted by abhilegend
We saw him reading the books and then he informed us how many books he read.He was benchpressing a machine which was then stated to have the weight of earth.
Surfer exclaimed something out of blue with nothing to back it up.
What else does Hulk has in this fight that matters?Superman's HV punched a hole in OMAC and nearly killed him just after he was stated to be stronger than superman.
I know you are too giddy at this point because you can post scans but don't spoil your pants just yet.
Whats OMAC best durability ft?
LOL at me being giddy about posting scans. I always provided scans.
I already told you what Hulk have in this fight.
Also, Orion tanked Superman heat vision.
Originally posted by abhilegendKind of like saying superman can fight at light speed with nothing to back it up huh?
We saw him reading the books and then he informed us how many books he read.He was benchpressing a machine which was then stated to have the weight of earth.
Surfer exclaimed something out of blue with nothing to back it up.
What else does Hulk has in this fight that matters?Superman's HV punched a hole in OMAC and nearly killed him just after he was stated to be stronger than superman.
I know you are too giddy at this point because you can post scans but don't spoil your pants just yet.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
There was already a loooong argument about the whole black-hole-inside-the-body Abhi. How about we just post the scans and let other people decide?http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-2612190
To all save Abhi (who's seen this scan before), notice the hand going into the guy's body on the 5th panel?
No, we saw Superman lifting some sort of funky machine weight and we saw him reading books real fast. The Scientist lady mentioned the weight in the former and Superman mentioned how many books he's read in the latter. Character statements corroborated the nature/magnitude of the "feats".
We saw Surfer open a black hole inside Airwalker in Annihilation. This is then corroborated by his character statements during In Thy Name where he expressively mentioned that he can "open singularities in their eyes".
Edit. A statement is only hyperbole if it has been determined via character history, implied power level and LACK of actual corroborative evidence proving that he is able/unable to do something. It is NOT hyperbole if the character in question has been able to do something similar in nature and magnitude to said "feat".
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Accepting one and not the other is obviously hypocritical.But the Thor/Gorr fight was hyperbole as well. Read that discussion and you'll understand why this is a lost cause.
Just ask yourself this, does it benefit Superman? The answer to that determines whether or not something is valid.
Originally posted by carver9
Whats OMAC best durability ft?LOL at me being giddy about posting scans. I always provided scans.
I already told you what Hulk have in this fight.
Also, Orion tanked Superman heat vision.
Yeah, you still haven't exploded a scan.
Which is just strength.
Superman wasn't trying to kill Orion there, he wanted to trap him in the ship.
Originally posted by JBL
Kind of like saying superman can fight at light speed with nothing to back it up huh?
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was stronger than. Superman. Durability is proportional to strength unless you're juggernaut.Yeah, you still haven't exploded a scan.
Which is just strength.
Superman wasn't trying to kill Orion there, he wanted to trap him in the ship.
Superman's fight with wonder woman in WW 219 says otherwise.
Him being stronger than Superman doesn't mean he is as durable. Orion and Superman seem to be peers when it came to strength and he handled his heat vision without trouble.
😂 I guess you are not going to let the exploding scan thingy go. Whatever ABHI.
No, its not just strength. Its permanent amping which also increase his strength, speed, and durability. You know these things ABHI. Current Hulk is walking around at high Herald levels, pissing him off or punching him isn't a good thing to do bro.
When was it stated that Superman was holding back in that fight? If anything....... It looked as if he was about to lose and Orion wasn't shooting blasts from his hand, flying at super speeds, etc...he was just punching and kicking.
Originally posted by carver9
Him being stronger than Superman doesn't mean he is as durable. Orion and Superman seem to be peers when it came to strength and he handled his heat vision without trouble.😂 I guess you are not going to let the exploding scan thingy go. Whatever ABHI.
No, its not just strength. Its permanent amping which also increase his strength, speed, and durability. You know these things ABHI. Current Hulk is walking around at high Herald levels, pissing him off or punching him isn't a good thing to do bro.
When was it stated that Superman was holding back in that fight? If anything....... It looked as if he was about to lose and Orion wasn't shooting blasts from his hand, flying at super speeds, etc...he was just punching and kicking.
Nope. Its just too funny.
Has he seen any good amping thus far? Or any amping AT ALL? Hulk is mid herald where he belongs. He isn't ready to play with big boys.
When he said he was being polite with Orion. Where did you find the comic which showed Superman about to lose? Yes, he was punching at enough speed to create sonic booms. Hulk hasn't shown such speed thus far.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In case of bricks it does. He was taking superman's punches with no problem.Nope. Its just too funny.
Has he seen any good amping thus far? Or any amping AT ALL? Hulk is mid herald where he belongs. He isn't ready to play with big boys.
When he said he was being polite with Orion. Where did you find the comic which showed Superman about to lose? Yes, he was punching at enough speed to create sonic booms. Hulk hasn't shown such speed thus far.
Orion was taking Superman punches with a smile on his face. What does that have to do with durability? Orion handled Superman heat vision, OMAC didn't. Your argument isn't adding up buddy.
Yes, he has amped and it was stated on panel that he has healed as well (indestructible Hulk #3). LOL at Hulk being mid Herald.
LOL...I don't remember him bringing up anything about being polite but even if he did, that doesn't mean he was holding back...especially his heat vision.
He was losing and would have lose if Wonder Woman didn't show up. He even admits he was embarrassed WW had to help him up or see him like that IIRC. Orion looked as if he was just getting started.
Originally posted by carver9
Orion was taking Superman punches with a smile on his face. What does that have to do with durability? Orion handled Superman heat vision, OMAC didn't. Your argument isn't adding up buddy.Yes, he has amped and it was stated on panel that he has healed as well (indestructible Hulk #3). LOL at Hulk being mid Herald.
LOL...I don't remember him bringing up anything about being polite but even if he did, that doesn't mean he was holding back...especially his heat vision.
He was losing and would have lose if Wonder Woman didn't show up. He even admits he was embarrassed WW had to help him up or see him like that IIRC. Orion looked as if he was just getting started.
Orion didn't tank the same level of HV which Superman used on OMAC where he was trying to put OMAC down. He was just trying to restrain Orion there by the ship melting around him.
Amped to what degree? I didn't thought it was any major amping. Hulk is a mid herald at this point carter. He looked a peer to Thor physically which isn't good enough to be a high herald just like Hercules.
Yeah being polite means you're going to kill somebody, right carter? Superman can control his HV. He wasn't trying to kill Orion there and Orion doesn't have a single low showing in DCnU unlike this hulk.
Hahaha. You are cute when you read your special brand of scans. Where was he losing carter? Wonder Woman said he won the fight and the Hector Hammond said he was the most powerful being on earth. He was embarrassed because his girlfriend found him sitting on his butt after a fight. Superman was getting started too. It was a clear stalemate where Orion was trying to kill superman while superman was holding back.
The bottom line is Superman beats the shit out of hulk as usual. Cry carter, cry.
