Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Superman was being polite. When he wasn't, Orion was whining like a ***** at one of superman's punches.

Orion didn't tank the same level of HV which Superman used on OMAC where he was trying to put OMAC down. He was just trying to restrain Orion there by the ship melting around him.

Amped to what degree? I didn't thought it was any major amping. Hulk is a mid herald at this point carter. He looked a peer to Thor physically which isn't good enough to be a high herald just like Hercules.

Yeah being polite means you're going to kill somebody, right carter? Superman can control his HV. He wasn't trying to kill Orion there and Orion doesn't have a single low showing in DCnU unlike this hulk.

Hahaha. You are cute when you read your special brand of scans. Where was he losing carter? Wonder Woman said he won the fight and the Hector Hammond said he was the most powerful being on earth. He was embarrassed because his girlfriend found him sitting on his butt after a fight. Superman was getting started too. It was a clear stalemate where Orion was trying to kill superman while superman was holding back.

The bottom line is Superman beats the shit out of hulk as usual. Cry carter, cry.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I said its not a hyperbole, didn't I?

Superman's fight with wonder woman in WW 219 says otherwise.

I can quote you outright saying it's hyperbole if you want.

Superman/Wonder Woman fight from WW #219 proves that he can fight at light speed in combat?

So you believe the Bill/Surfer fight in God Hunter is evidence of them being able to fight at faster then light speeds in combat?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
What low showings does Hulk have?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I can quote you outright saying it's hyperbole if you want.

Superman/Wonder Woman fight from WW #219 proves that he can fight at light speed in combat?

So you believe the Bill/Surfer fight in God Hunter is evidence of them being able to fight at faster then light speeds in combat?

Yes. Superman took her to the sun and back in one minute and 3 seconds.

Where was it stated that they were going lightspeed or above exactly?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I retracted it back.

Yes. Superman took her to the sun and back in one minute and 3 seconds.

Where was it stated that they were going lightspeed or above exactly?

After all that arguing you retracted your statement? Lol. At least we're making progress. I'm proud of you. 👆

They weren't just going at light speed, but noticeably faster. Bill had Skuttebutt moving as fast as it could to the next target.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Getting knocked out by an explosion and by a backhand from a gorilla.

Forget about the gorilla showing, it's just a petty low showing, you shouldn't even hear Abhi when he goes full low-ball mode anyways.

Originally posted by Bentley
Forget about the gorilla showing, it's just a petty low showing, you shouldn't even hear Abhi when he goes full low-ball mode anyways.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
After all that arguing you retracted your statement? Lol. At least we're making progress. I'm proud of you. 👆

They weren't just going at light speed, but noticeably faster. Bill had Skuttebutt moving as fast as it could to the next target.

Show the scan where they were stated to be going FTL then. It'd be easy.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
If you're referring to his fight with Iron Man there was no ko, they crashed into the ice, Hulk turned back to Banner and got up immediately. I like how you left out the fact the explosion would've killed Iron Man and destroyed a whole mountain though. Post the scan of him being ko'd by a gorilla.

Eyes closed and all that shit.

I'm glad you think a mountain busting isn't a low thing to knock out hulk. Hulk has always been>>Iron man. What's that supposed to prove anyway?

Why wasn't it the current hulk again? Was it a past encounter told in flashback? The change of personality can be easily explained as Anarchronists messing with hulk as revealed later.

Originally posted by Bentley
Forget about the gorilla showing, it's just a petty low showing, you shouldn't even hear Abhi when he goes full low-ball mode anyways.

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ABHI is a lowball professional and the thing about it is, he is terrible at it. Hulk clearly isn't koed in that scan. Clearly.

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI is a lowball professional

It takes one to recognize another 😈

Originally posted by Bentley
It takes one to recognize another 😈

😠

Originally posted by abhilegend
I retracted it awhile ago. No need to get your hopes up pal.

Show the scan where they were stated to be going FTL then. It'd be easy.
There was no KO? It surely looked like a KO.

Eyes closed and all that shit.

I'm glad you think a mountain busting isn't a low thing to knock out hulk. Hulk has always been>>Iron man. What's that supposed to prove anyway?

Why wasn't it the current hulk again? Was it a past encounter told in flashback? The change of personality can be easily explained as Anarchronists messing with hulk as revealed later.

An explosion that would've killed Iron Man outright would be low (-ish. IM is no slouch btw) if it ko'd Hulk but it didn't.

Yes which is a TIME related arc, Hulk doesn't wear purple pants or speak in sentences in any book he appears in and hasn't for a while now, afaik that includes 3 seperate Avengers books plus his own and the Infinty crossover event.

Hulkie Boy looks kayoed to me.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Hulkie Boy looks kayoed to me.

Lying on your back with limbs limp, eyes closed and mouth open.. even a close up on the face. Pretty much the definition of getting KO`d. Even a sign saying HE`S KNOCKED OUT couldn`t make it any clearer.

Not neccesarily such a bad showing anyway if you think the blast could have killed Tony. An heroic moment for mid herald Hulkie Boy really.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
If thats the case then Hulk has been ko'd in nearly every issue. From exploding mountains, to exploding buildings, and even simply holding up buildings have all ko'd him, who'd have thought Hulk was such weaksauce! Exploding building > adamantium melting weapons, giant mystical sea creatures, molecular manipulation, army of frost giants etc.

So you think its an average showing? Good.

It can be used to explain the inconsistencies between these two showings.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
If thats the case then Hulk has been ko'd in nearly every issue. From exploding mountains, to exploding buildings, and even simply holding up buildings have all ko'd him, who'd have thought Hulk was such weaksauce! Exploding building > adamantium melting weapons, giant mystical sea creatures, molecular manipulation, army of frost giants etc.

If he gets knocked on his ass with eyes closed and all that, he's definitely KOED. You are using his transformations as an excuse to deflect his low showings.

Sorry i'm so late carver:

Originally posted by carver9
@Juggerman...

So you admit, since Hulk recent speed fts poops on anything Juggernaut has done, we can agree that Juggernaut can't touch Hulk if Hulk doesn't allow it?

Juggernaut has speed feats as well

Originally posted by carver9
We go by fts though. This is simple, back up your claim that this will be an untouchable fight.

And the "feat" of him moving around and reading every medical book applies. Do you realise what this would even take to accomplish? The movements? The calculations? The focus? Dodging people/object to avoid death/damage? It's crazy

I know that PIS is automatically off, but CIS off means that we fight the battle for the character that we want to believe wins. This train of thought nullifies the character, and how they would approach a battle, thus giving them a black belt in super heroics that they may not deserve. Superman is going to be hit, because it's just the way that he rolls. The Hulk will hit him because he is able to hit speedsters of Superman's caliber. Sentry is certainly within this tier of speedsters.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In the second panel. You are being in denial if you think that's not a KO. Banner getting up doesn't mean hulk wasn't KOED. What kind of logic is that?

So you think its an average showing? Good.

It can be used to explain the inconsistencies between these two showings.

If he gets knocked on his ass with eyes closed and all that, he's definitely KOED. You are using his transformations as an excuse to deflect his low showings.

Yes, and a not low showing as you called it. Getting one-shotted by Aquaman would be a lower showing.

We see different obviously. That's how Waid writes the Hulk/Banner dynamic currently, the rest is just you reaching trying to find low showings, even though it's against the rules.

Originally posted by Stoic
I know that PIS is automatically off, but CIS off means that we fight the battle for the character that we want to believe wins. This train of thought nullifies the character, and how they would approach a battle, thus giving them a black belt in super heroics that they may not deserve. Superman is going to be hit, because it's just the way that he rolls. The Hulk will hit him because he is able to hit speedsters of Superman's caliber. Sentry is certainly within this tier of speedsters.

I agree with this. I'm not saying that Superman WILL fight this way but i am saying he COULD if he choose to.