I am using new 52 Superman because other versions(except the first one i guess) simply stomp any version of Hulk including non canon. Also using both at relatively recent showings will bring some consistency to the feats.
Correct me if i am wrong but WBH is WWH that made omnidirectional gamma rays attack, right?
Hulk's peak strength and level of fights was shown in WWH against Sentry. Canon and not over 30 years old i mean. He warned out by the end of the fight. "the madder he gets the stronger he gets" has a solid limit. He was beaten by punches that aren't even close to be comparable to what Superman did to He'l.
For CIS reasons Sentry went simply in brawl type of fight, no speed or other abilities. But when he did Hulk barely reacted.
Hulk was damaged by Zeus and stuck through a rock. Force that Zeus punched him was huge but whether he will be penetrated or not depends on durability. It was a showing of base Hulk so to say because Zeus blocked his abilties to amp himself.
Superman is much faster and he used speed advantage against opponents. Supergirl uses speed much more frequently though. The point is that he can do it.
Superman showed to be smart and plan some battles from start to finish. Actually he showed to be smarter than previous version and is using all his abilities when there is a need to.
Superman's durability and endurance are enourmous. He took H'el punches, had alot of juice after being exposed to kryptonite, red sun radiation and magic. I guess the costume helps here too though.
He took the weight of Earth for 5 days with one drop of sweat. He did it using his whole body strength means he can't simply lift something the weight of Earth with one hand but it does show that he is a tough cookie.
His strongest punch was against He'l, the whole Earth including lower cosmos and inner core felt it. The punch also destroyed quite the territory.
So all in all I just can't see Hulk winning here. Superman starts much stronger, faster and durable. Superman is smarter fighter. The only thing Hulk can do is repeat omnidirectional gamma attack but seeing as it first craked the planet and then added more force push its not that impressive to kryptonians unless empowered by kryptonite.
Originally posted by ClayWormHe doesn't start stronger. He is definitely much faster and can blitz Hulk. WBH doesn't run out of juice, but Hulk won't be going WBH so it is irrelevant.
I am using new 52 Superman because other versions(except the first one i guess) simply stomp any version of Hulk including non canon. Also using both at relatively recent showings will bring some consistency to the feats.Correct me if i am wrong but WBH is WWH that made omnidirectional gamma rays attack, right?
Hulk's peak strength and level of fights was shown in WWH against Sentry. Canon and not over 30 years old i mean. He warned out by the end of the fight. "the madder he gets the stronger he gets" has a solid limit. He was beaten by punches that aren't even close to be comparable to what Superman did to He'l.
For CIS reasons Sentry went simply in brawl type of fight, no speed or other abilities. But when he did Hulk barely reacted.
Hulk was damaged by Zeus and stuck through a rock. Force that Zeus punched him was huge but whether he will be penetrated or not depends on durability. It was a showing of base Hulk so to say because Zeus blocked his abilties to amp himself.Superman is much faster and he used speed advantage against opponents. Supergirl uses speed much more frequently though. The point is that he can do it.
Superman showed to be smart and plan some battles from start to finish. Actually he showed to be smarter than previous version and is using all his abilities when there is a need to.
Superman's durability and endurance are enourmous. He took H'el punches, had alot of juice after being exposed to kryptonite, red sun radiation and magic. I guess the costume helps here too though.
He took the weight of Earth for 5 days with one drop of sweat. He did it using his whole body strength means he can't simply lift something the weight of Earth with one hand but it does show that he is a tough cookie.
His strongest punch was against He'l, the whole Earth including lower cosmos and inner core felt it. The punch also destroyed quite the territory.So all in all I just can't see Hulk winning here. Superman starts much stronger, faster and durable. Superman is smarter fighter. The only thing Hulk can do is repeat omnidirectional gamma attack but seeing as it first craked the planet and then added more force push its not that impressive to kryptonians unless empowered by kryptonite.
LOL@Superman's orion blitz being as rare as Hulk going WBH.
Originally posted by ClayWorm
I am using new 52 Superman because other versions(except the first one i guess) simply stomp any version of Hulk including non canon. Also using both at relatively recent showings will bring some consistency to the feats.Correct me if i am wrong but WBH is WWH that made omnidirectional gamma rays attack, right?
Hulk's peak strength and level of fights was shown in WWH against Sentry. Canon and not over 30 years old i mean. He warned out by the end of the fight. "the madder he gets the stronger he gets" has a solid limit. He was beaten by punches that aren't even close to be comparable to what Superman did to He'l.
For CIS reasons Sentry went simply in brawl type of fight, no speed or other abilities. But when he did Hulk barely reacted.
Hulk was damaged by Zeus and stuck through a rock. Force that Zeus punched him was huge but whether he will be penetrated or not depends on durability. It was a showing of base Hulk so to say because Zeus blocked his abilties to amp himself.Superman is much faster and he used speed advantage against opponents. Supergirl uses speed much more frequently though. The point is that he can do it.
Superman showed to be smart and plan some battles from start to finish. Actually he showed to be smarter than previous version and is using all his abilities when there is a need to.
Superman's durability and endurance are enourmous. He took H'el punches, had alot of juice after being exposed to kryptonite, red sun radiation and magic. I guess the costume helps here too though.
He took the weight of Earth for 5 days with one drop of sweat. He did it using his whole body strength means he can't simply lift something the weight of Earth with one hand but it does show that he is a tough cookie.
His strongest punch was against He'l, the whole Earth including lower cosmos and inner core felt it. The punch also destroyed quite the territory.So all in all I just can't see Hulk winning here. Superman starts much stronger, faster and durable. Superman is smarter fighter. The only thing Hulk can do is repeat omnidirectional gamma attack but seeing as it first craked the planet and then added more force push its not that impressive to kryptonians unless empowered by kryptonite.
WBH is a Hulk that's amped far beyond WWH levels.
Originally posted by pym-ftwSuperman doesn't have to blitz. Why are you guys assuming using speed = blitz?
How did this become a race?😒
Neither one is blitzing the other...
Originally posted by -Pr-
WBH is a Hulk that's amped far beyond WWH levels.
Hulk's possible cap is WWH. To reach WWH he needed death of his lover and a kid as the very basis. To reach such level in a simple fight he needs way more time giving to him. WWH is no match for Superman. Usual Hulk is even less. There is no sensible reason for him to win against Superman.
Originally posted by ClayWormyou are badly informed
The only difference i saw was omnidirectional gamma blast. And all this thanks to external power source. So he can't reach this level on his own in any sensible time.Hulk's possible cap is WWH. To reach WWH he needed death of his lover and a kid as the very basis. To reach such level in a simple fight he needs way more time giving to him. WWH is no match for Superman. Usual Hulk is even less. There is no sensible reason for him to win against Superman.
WBH would beat superman for a solid majority
You have been enlightened.