Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

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Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Im Christian just to let you know. But I come to the conclusion that Noah Ark could not have existed for a few reasons.....

Races there are people of different races all over the world such as White, Black, Native Americans, Asians, and many more how could we have had all the different races develop if only Noah and his familiy were on the Ark?
The Size of the Boat would have to tremendous in size bigger than any boat the world has ever known. The boat would have to carry all Mammals, Insects, Birds, Reptiles, and Fresh Water Fish. DO you know how many different types of Insects theyre, theyre 900000 types of different insects. Also they would have to carry every plant that is on earth, becuz when the earth floods salt water will go all over the land, and Salt Water kills plants. Also with it raining as much as it did the plants would get no sun light and die. Also whats to keep any of the animals from dieing becuz of sickness, becuz if they did die that spieces would be completely gone.
Also the amount of food they would have to bring would be enormous. They would have to bring much hay for the Herbivores. But heres where the strange part comes in, the meat eaters would have to have meat to eat, and meat would spoil before 40 days were over, so if this was true they couldnt of possibly fed the meat eaters. Then for the amount of water they would have to bring on board would be tremendous too. They would have to carry enough water for the animals and their selves which is impossible.
Another reason is there just isnt enough water in the world to flood the whole world. Also its not possible to rain for 40 days becuz the sun would have to come out to evaporate the water, becuz if it didnt there wouldnt be any rain clouds.
Also how in the world did the animals get on different continents? Did Noah sail to every continent, if he did he would have truly been the first person to find the America's instead of Columbus, but that is most likely not true. Also he would have had to go to every fresh watern lake, river, and stream to put the fresh water fish where they belong, becuz they cant just get there theyre selfs, and that would be journey that could not be made in a single life time. Also how did all the different races get on different continents, that just doesnt seem possible.

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Re: Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Im Christian just to let you know. But I come to the conclusion that Noah Ark could not have existed for a few reasons.....

Races there are people of different races all over the world such as White, Black, Native Americans, Asians, and many more how could we have had all the different races develop if only Noah and his familiy were on the Ark?
The Size of the Boat would have to tremendous in size bigger than any boat the world has ever known. The boat would have to carry all Mammals, Insects, Birds, Reptiles, and Fresh Water Fish. DO you know how many different types of Insects theyre, theyre 900000 types of different insects. Also they would have to carry every plant that is on earth, becuz when the earth floods salt water will go all over the land, and Salt Water kills plants. Also with it raining as much as it did the plants would get no sun light and die. Also whats to keep any of the animals from dieing becuz of sickness, becuz if they did die that spieces would be completely gone.
Also the amount of food they would have to bring would be enormous. They would have to bring much hay for the Herbivores. But heres where the strange part comes in, the meat eaters would have to have meat to eat, and meat would spoil before 40 days were over, so if this was true they couldnt of possibly fed the meat eaters. Then for the amount of water they would have to bring on board would be tremendous too. They would have to carry enough water for the animals and their selves which is impossible.
Another reason is there just isnt enough water in the world to flood the whole world. Also its not possible to rain for 40 days becuz the sun would have to come out to evaporate the water, becuz if it didnt there wouldnt be any rain clouds.
Also how in the world did the animals get on different continents? Did Noah sail to every continent, if he did he would have truly been the first person to find the America's instead of Columbus, but that is most likely not true. Also he would have had to go to every fresh watern lake, river, and stream to put the fresh water fish where they belong, becuz they cant just get there theyre selfs, and that would be journey that could not be made in a single life time. Also how did all the different races get on different continents, that just doesnt seem possible.

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is anything too difficult for God ?

Re: Re: Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Even though Im christian in my heart I know God doesnt exist. If he did exist he wouldnt allow any people die from unnatural reasons, such as being shot and killed.

is anything too difficult for God ?
obviously since everyone does not believe in this god

Even though Im christian in my heart I know God doesnt exist. If he did exist he wouldnt allow any people die from unnatural reasons, such as being shot and killed
christian with an atheist view now thats a new one

Re: Re: Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Originally posted by mysparrow
is anything too difficult for God ?

Well, he's having a hard time with satan right now......they keep gambling up there...upping the ante.

Texas hold `em?

✅ ...Texas hold em...don't know when to fold em.... 😂

There was a Noah's Ark "they" suspect although it wasn't like the Noah's Ark in the bible.......historically at least thats what National Geographic told me🙂

Similar stories exist in other religions and cultural traditions. Noah's Ark wasn't the first "let's build a big boat for this flood" story...it was just assimilated into Christianity. I'd say your inclinations are true. Lots of the stories are borrowed or modified once you start to look into it.

And if I could remember the source where I read that about the Ark, I'd post it. So I apologize, but my word is all I have to go off of. It did exist at least in some ancient Hindu text (in a similar form), I just can't remember the details.

Yes I think thats something people need to keep in mind when reading alot of religious texts is that most of what is said is just a parable.

Some philosophies are a little more relaxed in the interpretation and others blind to the reality🙂

Re: Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Im Christian just to let you know. But I come to the conclusion that Noah Ark could not have existed for a few reasons.....

Races there are people of different races all over the world such as White, Black, Native Americans, Asians, and many more how could we have had all the different races develop if only Noah and his familiy were on the Ark?
The Size of the Boat would have to tremendous in size bigger than any boat the world has ever known. The boat would have to carry all Mammals, Insects, Birds, Reptiles, and Fresh Water Fish. DO you know how many different types of Insects theyre, theyre 900000 types of different insects. Also they would have to carry every plant that is on earth, becuz when the earth floods salt water will go all over the land, and Salt Water kills plants. Also with it raining as much as it did the plants would get no sun light and die. Also whats to keep any of the animals from dieing becuz of sickness, becuz if they did die that spieces would be completely gone.
Also the amount of food they would have to bring would be enormous. They would have to bring much hay for the Herbivores. But heres where the strange part comes in, the meat eaters would have to have meat to eat, and meat would spoil before 40 days were over, so if this was true they couldnt of possibly fed the meat eaters. Then for the amount of water they would have to bring on board would be tremendous too. They would have to carry enough water for the animals and their selves which is impossible.
Another reason is there just isnt enough water in the world to flood the whole world. Also its not possible to rain for 40 days becuz the sun would have to come out to evaporate the water, becuz if it didnt there wouldnt be any rain clouds.
Also how in the world did the animals get on different continents? Did Noah sail to every continent, if he did he would have truly been the first person to find the America's instead of Columbus, but that is most likely not true. Also he would have had to go to every fresh watern lake, river, and stream to put the fresh water fish where they belong, becuz they cant just get there theyre selfs, and that would be journey that could not be made in a single life time. Also how did all the different races get on different continents, that just doesnt seem possible.

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There's another Noah's Ark thread that covers most of what you are talking about. But...

Races... over hundreds of years different environments will change your appearence.

Boat size... there weren't as many species as there are today. Plus, read the bible and the size conversions it gives. It was a pretty big boat.

Plants on the ark... no they would not have to carry every plant.

Yes they would have to have brought food.

Water... Um they were kinda on a flooded earth... plenty of water for ya there.

Yes there would be enough water to flood the earth. It says for forty days it rained and also water came up from the deep. i.e. underwater springs.

Animals getting from continent to continent..... Okay... when the animals got off the boat... they got their groove on, and on and on and on and on and on. And they spread out around the continents.

The fish you are talking about... Noah did not have to worry about fish since they were already in the water and when there is a flood there is just more water.

Originally posted by soleran30
There was a Noah's Ark "they" suspect although it wasn't like the Noah's Ark in the bible.......historically at least thats what National Geographic told me🙂

It's only presumed to be Noah's Ark...The wood collected along with some other artifact type things dated way off to be the "Ark"...

Re: Re: Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Originally posted by Echuu
There's another Noah's Ark thread that covers most of what you are talking about. But...

Races... over hundreds of years different environments will change your appearence.

Boat size... there weren't as many species as there are today. Plus, read the bible and the size conversions it gives. It was a pretty big boat.

Plants on the ark... no they would not have to carry every plant.

Yes they would have to have brought food.

Water... Um they were kinda on a flooded earth... plenty of water for ya there.

Yes there would be enough water to flood the earth. It says for forty days it rained and also water came up from the deep. i.e. underwater springs.

Animals getting from continent to continent..... Okay... when the animals got off the boat... they got their groove on, and on and on and on and on and on. And they spread out around the continents.

The fish you are talking about... Noah did not have to worry about fish since they were already in the water and when there is a flood there is just more water.

Your missing the point, salt water kills fresh water fish.

They wouldnt be able to feed the meat eaters becuz the meat would spoil

They would have to bring every plant becuz all the plants would have died becuz of too much water. If you leave a plant under water for 40 days it will die.

There isnt enough water to flood the world. And the world cant flood for 40 days that scientifically impossble.

There was to as many species back then. But according to the bible every creature was made by god, not through evolution, so you just contradicted your self.

Races ummm people dont go from black to white over lets say ten thousand years, but maybe over millions of years they do.

The boat would have had to be at least a mile long to store every spieces and all the supplies. You cant just build a boat that big in a life time especially with such bad technologies.

Noah would have had to go to every continent and release every animal, which would mean he would be the first to discover the america's. Well lets see how come we didnt find the America's until the late 1400's again, did we just forget where it was? nope

Re: Re: Re: Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Your missing the point, salt water kills fresh water fish.

They wouldnt be able to feed the meat eaters becuz the meat would spoil

They would have to bring every plant becuz all the plants would have died becuz of too much water. If you leave a plant under water for 40 days it will die.

There isnt enough water to flood the world. And the world cant flood for 40 days that scientifically impossble.

There was to as many species back then. But according to the bible every creature was made by god, not through evolution, so you just contradicted your self.

Races ummm people dont go from black to white over lets say ten thousand years, but maybe over millions of years they do.

The boat would have had to be at least a mile long to store every spieces and all the supplies. You cant just build a boat that big in a life time especially with such bad technologies.

Noah would have had to go to every continent and release every animal, which would mean he would be the first to discover the america's. Well lets see how come we didnt find the America's until the late 1400's again, did we just forget where it was? nope

God can do all things , he kept the lions from eating daniel , his abilities are out of our scope of what he can do. If you search hard enough you can always find reason to NOT believe something , its a thing of faith, do you believe God is ? if so do you believe the bible is truth of God ?
if so then the stories are true . your choice to believe or not ;

Re: Re: Re: Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Your missing the point, salt water kills fresh water fish.

They wouldnt be able to feed the meat eaters becuz the meat would spoil

They would have to bring every plant becuz all the plants would have died becuz of too much water. If you leave a plant under water for 40 days it will die.

There isnt enough water to flood the world. And the world cant flood for 40 days that scientifically impossble.

There was to as many species back then. But according to the bible every creature was made by god, not through evolution, so you just contradicted your self.

Races ummm people dont go from black to white over lets say ten thousand years, but maybe over millions of years they do.

The boat would have had to be at least a mile long to store every spieces and all the supplies. You cant just build a boat that big in a life time especially with such bad technologies.

Noah would have had to go to every continent and release every animal, which would mean he would be the first to discover the america's. Well lets see how come we didnt find the America's until the late 1400's again, did we just forget where it was? nope

Um, if the salt was already there and the fish were already there? Plus you've heard of salmon right?

I know that the plants would die underwater... before God allowed the ark to be opened again he had them stay inside for a certain amount of time while Noah released a dove to see if there were signs of life yet.

Yes there would have been enough water to flood the earth. Water came from the skies AND from the deep... as in underwater springs and lakes... do you realize how huge some of those underwater springs could have been? Also; think about it storming and raining for 40 days straight across the entire planet.

How did I contradict myself??? There is something called inbreeding... notice how there are more species of dogs now than there were 2,000 years ago... I never mentioned anything about evolution.

Yes races can... think about how you can get a tan in a week(or even a couple days) and imagine being exposed to that for your entire life... I think that can cause some rapid changes.

Read the bible and its measurement conversions... also as I said... there weren't as many species. Ancient technology wasn't as bad as we think... The Roman Colosseum had an air conditioning system and primitive elevators. Also look at some of the ancient wonders of the world like the Pyramids or the Hanging gardens of Babylon or the Colossus in Rhodes.

Noah would NOT have had to go to every continent... What do you mean by 'forget where it was'? There were Native Americans already living here when Columbus discovered the 'New World.' The people and animals migrated when they left the ark. They did as God commanded and were 'fruitful and multiplied.'

Um, if the salt was already there and the fish were already there? Plus you've heard of salmon right?
and all the other fishes that aint salt water fish?

Yes there would have been enough water to flood the earth. Water came from the skies AND from the deep... as in underwater springs and lakes... do you realize how huge some of those underwater springs could have been? Also; think about it storming and raining for 40 days straight across the entire planet.
and then we go again with even if the boat was big, biggert than any other wooden boat in history, it wasnt big enough to host all the animals of this planet

also as I said... there weren't as many species
and you get this from????

Ancient technology wasn't as bad as we think...
on a maretim basis it was

The people and animals migrated when they left the ark
and they used comercial airlines to get to certain destinations or..............

What about all the insects, and penguins, and polar bears, and piranha (fresh water)...and barracuda's ouch!..fresh water...

Originally posted by finti
and all the other fishes that aint salt water fish?

and then we go again with even if the boat was big, biggert than any other wooden boat in history, it wasnt big enough to host all the animals of this planet

and you get this from????

on a maretim basis it was

and they used comercial airlines to get to certain destinations or..............

They adapted. Though I don't believe in the evolution that I was accused of in the previous post I do believe in micro evolution in which animals change slightly to adapt to their environment.

Yup and we are going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

Think about it. Do you really think there were the same amount of species today as there were 5,000 years ago?

God was also helping Noah to build the ark(not physically but through inspiration; he told Noah how to build it and Noah obeyed).

Oh that's right.... I kinda forgot about the tower of Babel as to how most people were spread about.

And yes they used commercial airliners built by Noah to get around. 😛

They adapted. Though I don't believe in the evolution that I was accused of in the previous post I do believe in micro evolution in which animals change slightly to adapt to their environment.
animals dont adapt overnight though

Think about it. Do you really think there were the same amount of species today as there were 5,000 years ago?
many species have gone instinct and man have been able to "create" new "species" at least in the dog and cat family, and why shouldnt it been the same amount 5000 years ago????, 5000 years ago is that when you date the Noahs Ark event, cause 5000 years ago there were a very active wild life of animals in Norway and there is no evidence of them disappearing nor of the people who lived her either...........To put it simple there are no evidence that life here suddenly and abruptly disappeared, and for the sake of argument, if it did disappear dont you think it would take some time for that little family of Noah to reproduce (inbred misfits) so numberous amount of people that people started to migrate and settle parts of the world, how long do you think it was before mankind was large enough to start setteling the world after this so called biblical flood?

Originally posted by finti
animals dont adapt overnight though

many species have gone instinct and man have been able to "create" new "species" at least in the dog and cat family, and why shouldnt it been the same amount 5000 years ago????, 5000 years ago is that when you date the Noahs Ark event, cause 5000 years ago there were a very active wild life of animals in Norway and there is no evidence of them disappearing nor of the people who lived her either...........To put it simple there are no evidence that life here suddenly and abruptly disappeared, and for the sake of argument, if it did disappear dont you think it would take some time for that little family of Noah to reproduce (inbred misfits) so numberous amount of people that people started to migrate and settle parts of the world, how long do you think it was before mankind was large enough to start setteling the world after this so called biblical flood?

Nope definitely isn't overnight.

There weren't as many species of animals back then just as there weren't as many people living on the earth. It's common sense.

Norway? What's that got to do with anything? The people of Noah's time weren't living in Norway. They were living in the Middle East.
Also I don't remember what it's called but supposedly there is some instinct in humans for reproduction after large catastrophes which helps recover loss of life.

Anyways I do believe there are signs of the flood. They have found fossils of sea creatures on ridiculous places like mountaintops and so forth. My mother(farmer's daughter) when she was very young even found a shell of some sea creature on the farm which was in the middle of nowhere!