Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

This is an easy question to answer. There may have been a boat. It may have had noah on it. It may have had his dog or cat or goat or w/e pet he had. There's no way he could physically make a boat large enough to hold every single animal on earth. It's also impossible for 4 people to repopulate the planet. Add in the fact that there are records of other civilizations existing during the time of which the world was supposedly flooded and only noah and his family lived, and the story of Noahs Ark has no credibility.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Im Christian just to let you know. But I come to the conclusion that Noah Ark could not have existed for a few reasons.....

Races there are people of different races all over the world such as White, Black, Native Americans, Asians, and many more how could we have had all the different races develop if only Noah and his familiy were on the Ark?
The Size of the Boat would have to tremendous in size bigger than any boat the world has ever known. The boat would have to carry all Mammals, Insects, Birds, Reptiles, and Fresh Water Fish. DO you know how many different types of Insects theyre, theyre 900000 types of different insects. Also they would have to carry every plant that is on earth, becuz when the earth floods salt water will go all over the land, and Salt Water kills plants. Also with it raining as much as it did the plants would get no sun light and die. Also whats to keep any of the animals from dieing becuz of sickness, becuz if they did die that spieces would be completely gone.
Also the amount of food they would have to bring would be enormous. They would have to bring much hay for the Herbivores. But heres where the strange part comes in, the meat eaters would have to have meat to eat, and meat would spoil before 40 days were over, so if this was true they couldnt of possibly fed the meat eaters. Then for the amount of water they would have to bring on board would be tremendous too. They would have to carry enough water for the animals and their selves which is impossible.
Another reason is there just isnt enough water in the world to flood the whole world. Also its not possible to rain for 40 days becuz the sun would have to come out to evaporate the water, becuz if it didnt there wouldnt be any rain clouds.
Also how in the world did the animals get on different continents? Did Noah sail to every continent, if he did he would have truly been the first person to find the America's instead of Columbus, but that is most likely not true. Also he would have had to go to every fresh watern lake, river, and stream to put the fresh water fish where they belong, becuz they cant just get there theyre selfs, and that would be journey that could not be made in a single life time. Also how did all the different races get on different continents, that just doesnt seem possible.

More reasons to come.....

Don't worry, you're way ahead...

Originally posted by mysparrow
God can do all things , he kept the lions from eating daniel , his abilities are out of our scope of what he can do. If you search hard enough you can always find reason to NOT believe something , its a thing of faith, do you believe God is ? if so do you believe the bible is truth of God ?
if so then the stories are true . your choice to believe or not ;

Originally posted by lord xyz
You're at the mental age of a 5 year old.

Don't worry, you're way ahead... him.

Besides a few things that the guy posted most of it was a valid argument, I don't understand what makes you say his mental age is 5.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Besides a few things that the guy posted most of it was a valid argument, I don't understand what makes you say his mental age is 5.

If I had to guess it was this:

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Im Christian

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If I had to guess it was this:

Originally posted by Echuu
There's another Noah's Ark thread that covers most of what you are talking about. But...

Races... over hundreds of years different environments will change your appearence.

Boat size... there weren't as many species as there are today. Plus, read the bible and the size conversions it gives. It was a pretty big boat.

Plants on the ark... no they would not have to carry every plant.

Yes they would have to have brought food.

Water... Um they were kinda on a flooded earth... plenty of water for ya there.

Yes there would be enough water to flood the earth. It says for forty days it rained and also water came up from the deep. i.e. underwater springs.

Animals getting from continent to continent..... Okay... when the animals got off the boat... they got their groove on, and on and on and on and on and on. And they spread out around the continents.

The fish you are talking about... Noah did not have to worry about fish since they were already in the water and when there is a flood there is just more water.

Are you actually retarded?

1: Races don't change over hundreds of years...they change over hundreds of thousands of years...

2: Actually there were more species then than there are now. Not less. Largely because of the human destruction of rainforests. This is known as the Holocene extinction event and is still ongoing now and is accelerating.

3: an elephant will eat roughly half a ton of food per day. 2 elephants means a ton...that's 40 tons...just for 1 species for 40 days.

There are roughly 1.5 million species on the earth now...Species are now disappearing at a rate of 140,000 PER YEAR.

4: No....There wouldn't be enough water to flood the earth because there's never been and never will be enough oxygen of hydrogen in the earth's atmosphere to make that much water.

In fact here's an interesting image...It shows what would happen if you took all the earth's water and suspended it in a ball above the planet.

Even if it rained at the rate of the highest rainfall ever recorded and make that across the world...460 inches per year...that'd still only mean a rise of water levels, in 40 days, of 50 inches...a whole 4ft 2in

As for the point about fish...If the entire world was to flood then most of the fish in the world would die off because most are actually found in fresh water rather than salt (in terms of species) and fresh water fish cant survive in salt water or vice versa.

A lot of ancient religions have a kind of "flood" or "there was a sort of apocalypse and only the the special ones survived" story. Also, most of Christian "stories" [at least, this is what I believe, I don't think that everything in the bible is completely literal] are really parables. Like, a much earlier very of Aesop's Fables and/or Grimm's fairytales. Very short, often dramatic, always with a moral. So what could we get out of Noah's Ark?

"Dudes, pay attention to my laws and such or I'll turn you into a flea, a harmless little flea. And then I'll put it in a box, and put that box in another box, then mail it to myself, and when it arrives... AHAHA!!! I'll smash it with a HAMMAH!!! Or, to save on postage, I'll just send a giant flood and drown everybody except the fish because they already swim and and no one else will build a boat or anything."

Or something simpler, like,
"Obey me, even if what I ask sounds very silly. If you disobey, you'll look even sillier."

Whatevs. If you're interested, you should check out other flood myths and check to see what they have in common.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
A lot of ancient religions have a kind of "flood" or "there was a sort of apocalypse and only the the special ones survived" story. Also, most of Christian "stories" [at least, this is what I believe, I don't think that everything in the bible is completely literal] are really parables. Like, a much earlier very of Aesop's Fables and/or Grimm's fairytales. Very short, often dramatic, always with a moral. So what could we get out of Noah's Ark?

"Dudes, pay attention to my laws and such or I'll turn you into a flea, a harmless little flea. And then I'll put it in a box, and put that box in another box, then mail it to myself, and when it arrives... AHAHA!!! I'll smash it with a HAMMAH!!! Or, to save on postage, I'll just send a giant flood and drown everybody except the fish because they already swim and and no one else will build a boat or anything."

Or something simpler, like,
"Obey me, even if what I ask sounds very silly. If you disobey, you'll look even sillier."

Whatevs. If you're interested, you should check out other flood myths and check to see what they have in common.

Moral of the story is that there wasn't a great flood caused by a God. People just thought that b/c they kept finding sea shells and fish fossils on the mainland making them assume there had been a great flood.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(mythology)

Moral of the story is that there wasn't a great flood caused by a God. People just thought that b/c they kept finding sea shells and fish fossils on the mainland making them assume there had been a great flood.

Whay, thank you for bringing support to a mostly rambling argument.

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Originally posted by siriuswriter
Whay, thank you for bringing support to a mostly rambling argument.

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yay atheists win

Edit: Wrong thread. 😮

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Even though Im christian in my heart I know God doesnt exist. If he did exist he wouldnt allow any people die from unnatural reasons, such as being shot and killed.

lol then get out of your Religion. God lets his children decide what to do. He isnt going to stop them from that. He isnt going to force us to do what it right we have to decide that on our own

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Even though Im christian in my heart I know God doesnt exist. If he did exist he wouldnt allow any people die from unnatural reasons, such as being shot and killed.

Bad things happen, thus God doesn't exist? That isn't a particularly sensible argument.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Bad things happen, thus God doesn't exist? That isn't a particularly sensible argument.

Agreed. Get some better arguments against God, then leave. Because "Bad things happen, ergo atheism" is just silly. It also always kinda irked me that such arguments, which aren't uncommon, equate evil with atheism. It's a false correlation.

Yea I don't think I'm evil and I'm an atheist. But yea thinking God doesn't exist because bad things happen isn't a great argument. Thinking the Judeo-Christian version of God doesn't exist because bad things happen is a 1/2 right assumption. The God that most people make him out to be as all caring and whatnot couldn't possibly exist if you take in the current state of our world. I would rather argue that God doesn't exist because the whole notion of a magical being making things out of nothing is kinda crazy. Believing that the matter in the Universe has always existed seems more feasible. But back to the topic at hand, it's not physically possible to make an arc containing 2 of each creatures on earth. Add in the fact that all plant life would've died but somehow lived and it becomes less likely. Unless of course what they meant by 2 of everything was that Noah had a DNA sample, and his ark was a spaceship, then we can come to the conclusion God is an alien. So in closing, God is an alien, Noah made a new world out of DNA samples, and his ark was an advanced spacecraft the alien made for him.

Did you just talk yourself into being a Scientologist?

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Yea I don't think I'm evil and I'm an atheist. But yea thinking God doesn't exist because bad things happen isn't a great argument. Thinking the Judeo-Christian version of God doesn't exist because bad things happen is a 1/2 right assumption. The God that most people make him out to be as all caring and whatnot couldn't possibly exist if you take in the current state of our world. I would rather argue that God doesn't exist because the whole notion of a magical being making things out of nothing is kinda crazy. Believing that the matter in the Universe has always existed seems more feasible. But back to the topic at hand, it's not physically possible to make an arc containing 2 of each creatures on earth. Add in the fact that all plant life would've died but somehow lived and it becomes less likely. Unless of course what they meant by 2 of everything was that Noah had a DNA sample, and his ark was a spaceship, then we can come to the conclusion God is an alien. So in closing, God is an alien, Noah made a new world out of DNA samples, and his ark was an advanced spacecraft the alien made for him.

lol clever... We dont know how Noah would have gotten all the animals of the earth on that boat. But I believe that if God gives you a task he will prepare the way and that he will make it happen. So none the less Noah did it.

Originally posted by Tonks
lol clever... We dont know how Noah would have gotten all the animals of the earth on that boat. But I believe that if God gives you a task he will prepare the way and that he will make it happen. So none the less Noah did it.

However, definitions are what really matters in this story. For example, the world; at the time when the bible was written, people had no concept of the world as a planet in space. If you didn't know what was beyond your local valley, then the world would be your local valley. If that valley flooded, then the world flooded. 8,000 years ago the Black Sea was much lower then it is today. At about that time, the Mediterranean Sea flooded into the Black Sea. If you lived on the shore of the Black Sea, then you would think that the "world" was flooding.

yeah I see your point and I often think about that. But they say that Noah landed at a different place then he left at.