Did Noah Ark actually Exist?

There weren't as many species of animals back then just as there weren't as many people living on the earth. It's common sense

Norway? What's that got to do with anything? The people of Noah's time weren't living in Norway. They were living in the Middle East

Also I don't remember what it's called but supposedly there is some instinct in humans for reproduction after large catastrophes which helps recover loss of life.

They have found fossils of sea creatures on ridiculous places like mountaintops and so forth

My mother(farmer's daughter) when she was very young even found a shell of some sea creature on the farm which was in the middle of nowhere!

Originally posted by finti
now why is it common sence that it was less spiecies when the population was low, the opposite would avtually be more common sence, the less people the more spiecies of animals

so you say the flood was limited to the middle east only?

the time to reproduce is the same regardless events..... 9 months + +

easily explained due to the fact that mountains is a product of movement of lithospheric plates, which simply explains that the rocks are forced upwards making mountains grow taller all the time

ever heard of the ice age well the comming and retraction of the ice glaciers brought with them stuff that belonged elsewhere

'Created species' and the results of inbreeding would be less then than now.

I never said that. That is where Noah resided. I highly doubt that many, if any, people were living in Norway at the time of the flood.

Also easily explained that as the floodwaters receded sea creatures swimming in waters above the mountains got stuck on them and died.

Yes I have heard of the ice age... but I am not the most educated person on the subject; so if possible it would be nice for you to fill me in.

'Created species' and the results of inbreeding would be less then than now.

I never said that. That is where Noah resided. I highly doubt that many, if any, people were living in Norway at the time of the flood.

Yes I have heard of the ice age... but I am not the most educated person on the subject; so if possible it would be nice for you to fill me in

Originally posted by finti
still it was plenty of different spices of all kinds back then and way too many to fit in the ark given the measurement of the bible
the entire Scandinavia was populated long before the time the christians date the so called flood.
Man followed the retractions of the glaciers from the last Ice age and settled the areas of Northern Europe, we have dugouts of settlements where I live that is dated to 8000 BC
maybe you should learn a bit more about it before throwing yourself into a discussion of this kind then, to put it simple the changing in the climate ended the last ice age ended around 10 000 years ago when ice sheets covered most of the European Continent and Northern America. The last 3 million years (the last ice age) the glacier have advanced and retreated on a cycle of 40- 100 000 years intervals, the last one as mention earlier retracted 10 000 years ago a retraction that formed much of the landscape of the Northern European Countries........this retraction led to new land for animals to live in and where the animals went humans followed.

Once again... have to agree to disagree

Maybe you should cut down on the run-on sentances and form paragraphs??? I was just asking for you to fill me in on the Ice Age because I didn't know the exact details.

The flood can actually account for the ice age also because of the rapid climate changes the earth experiences.

Also...carbon dating has its flaws.

For the settlements... just dugouts or human remains also?

Originally posted by Echuu
Once again... have to agree to disagree

Maybe you should cut down on the run-on sentances and form paragraphs??? I was just asking for you to fill me in on the Ice Age because I didn't know the exact details.

The flood can actually account for the ice age also because of the rapid climate changes the earth experiences.

Also...carbon dating has its flaws.

For the settlements... just dugouts or human remains also?

Every time carbon dating has been refined, the dates have gotten longer. So something they thought was 10,000 years old may end up being 20,000 years old.

Also, there is good evidence that the story of Gilgamesh ( http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/GILG.HTM ) was the origin of the Noah's ark story, and Gilgamesh may have taken place at the time of the Black Sea flood. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/

Yeah I've heard of that before. Long story short it tries to explain the appearence and stories of a large flood in different cultures due to one flood in the Black Sea.

The flood can actually account for the ice age also because of the rapid climate changes the earth experiences.

Maybe you should cut down on the run-on sentances and form paragraphs???

For the settlements... just dugouts or human remains also?

Originally posted by finti
I would love to see you elaborate this.

you got a problem understanding them when they consist of more than 4 words?

Actually one doesnt need human remains to explain a settlement. The objects they found there is enough to tell humans lived there, but to answer your question yes they found human remains as well

Okay
Assuming the earth is flooded...as the waters receded the polar ice caps and other places of the world were frozen.
I could give you an article that explains it a bit better than I can if you'd like.

Actually I was being sarcastic.

Yes I know that. I was just curious because you said there was no evidence of the wildlife or people there disappearing. Has any archaeologists been able to come up with theories as to how they died?

Yes I know that. I was just curious because you said there was no evidence of the wildlife or people there disappearing Has any archaeologists been able to come up with theories as to how they died?

Assuming the earth is flooded...as the waters receded the polar ice caps and other places of the world were frozen

Originally posted by finti
how what died? as for this area nothing died or disappeared except those that went extinct due to hunting (certain species are very fragile and too many predators and no refugee will end their existence)

why didnt it freeze up before it started to recede

The people. Did they just die of old age or what?

The climate wasn't necessarily cold enough in certain areas but in some areas it was and the water did freeze before it started to recede. That could account for the glaciers you talked about in North America, other areas, and the polar ice caps.

you are so lost it aint even funny.................why dont yoy say what you think insteed of waht others try to think for you

Originally posted by finti
you are so lost it aint even funny.................why dont yoy say what you think insteed of waht others try to think for you

No I am actually coming up with theories on the effects of the biblical flood believe it or not.

And you still didn't answer me about the people.

The people. Did they just die of old age or what

Originally posted by finti
what people????

Oh my goodness... the people who lived during Noah's time in Norway! How did they die??? Did they die like any normal person would???

Oh my goodness... the people who lived during Noah's time in Norway! How did they die??? Did they die like any normal person would???

Originally posted by finti
yes they died "ordinary" deaths, some by illness some by acidents some by age some by chance

Thank you.

Originally posted by Echuu
Nope definitely isn't overnight.

There weren't as many species of animals back then just as there weren't as many people living on the earth. It's common sense.

Norway? What's that got to do with anything? The people of Noah's time weren't living in Norway. They were living in the Middle East.
Also I don't remember what it's called but supposedly there is some instinct in humans for reproduction after large catastrophes which helps recover loss of life.

Anyways I do believe there are signs of the flood. They have found fossils of sea creatures on ridiculous places like mountaintops and so forth. My mother(farmer's daughter) when she was very young even found a shell of some sea creature on the farm which was in the middle of nowhere!

wow christians are dumb, fossils in mountains exist because those mountains used to be under the sea. if you look under the see you will find many mountains, some even taller than everest, also you will find volcanoes thanks to the tectonic plates.

and havent you ever thought hmm.....the floods happening were just happening in the middle east, and you think the millions of people (back then) would have fit in one concentrated area? look at rome the first to meet one million JUST one million, and it was crowded. now imagine those people in the middle east, over at least 100 million people.

also people dont just turn colors over thousands of years, sure you get a tan over a week, but if you gave birth to a baby when you had a tan does that mean the baby automatically get a tan? NO if that were true all the white people in california would have been black already.

and not to forget the amount of inbreeding that would happen would cause extinction of all species over 20 years. ever study the tazmanian devil? on the endangered list, so people resulted to breeding them, now breeding them in captivity caused the animals to eventually inbreed, this inbreeding cause no difference in genetic make up, no biological diversity, and you know what happened? the tazmanian devils bred in captivity were tracked and years later found to have these weird lumps on their nose, and those lumps were, drum roll please......cancer. You are telling me that noah plus his family made the 4 billion who live on earth today? just look at inbred people! physically strong, (somewhat) but mentally, not able to complete the tasks needed to. please dont try to use the evolution theory and say that your not using it, you are, just very very poorly.

forgive my grammatical errors just bare with it, this is a passionate argument for me, and i type really fast without checking my spelling mistakes or grammar

Originally posted by heckald
just look at inbred people! physically strong, (somewhat) but mentally, not able to complete the tasks needed to.

Inbreeding doesn't lead toward any specific result . . . it causes awful things in all sorts of different ways.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Inbreeding doesn't lead toward any specific result . . . it causes awful things in all sorts of different ways.

still bad, that was the point i was making