Ultramarines vs. Ragnos

Started by Gryn Jabar5 pages

Guys, screaming won't accomplish anything. Let's debate this like gentlemen.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Wow, Stratigo, if you're going to debate that something can beat Starwars, which is the premise of this forum, you should learn that the burden of proof is on [b]you. Ragnos is one of the most powerful beings EVER to live in SWEU continuity. That's fact, it's written out in narration in the TOTJ comics. No hyperbole, no bullshit. He was "the most powerful of the most powerful." AKA more powerful that Lord "I can keep my head in a jar because I'm so uber" Simus, more powerful than Naga "I blow up stars because I'm bored" Sadow, more powerful than Ludo "I lead the resistance of a 'godlike' (again, official wording) race" Kressh.

He ruled the Sith Empire, an empire where the most powerful reign, for 150 years. That feat arguably supercedes effectively any political and power play maneuver in the Star Wars Universe. The burden of proof isn't on Ragnos.

Uhh... what are you smoking?

First off, the Ancient Sith screwed themselves over. Once the old Lords died after the Golden Age of the Sith, much of their culture and force powers were lost. As for the weaker, newer Sith in the following millenia, they absolutely didn't mind doing that. Ever hear of the Battle of Ruusan? [/B]

The weapon in the battle of Ruusan was made by a combination of many sith.

Aaaaaah but he did die and that kind of belays his godlike status. The emperor in wh40k lived for several hundred years before he was placed upon the golden throne. Ragnos might be most powerful in the Star wars universe but he is but a drop in the bucket in the Warhammer 40k universe. A place where godlike beings struggle to control the galaxy.

The chaos gods are pretty much a gesalt of all negative emotions from every sentient race in the galaxy(and perhaps beyond as the limits of the ancient empire was never defined). Chaos itself is undefined. Raw warp. there are no laws it accepts. Everything can be mutated and broken.

Then there are the C'tan(translation, star gods) who are ancient beings that live off of devouring stars and souls. Their servents are the necrons. Formerly an advanced race who were turned into living machines when they dealt with the C'tan

The elder are the one of the most ancient of races. They forged and empire and then destroyed themselves with their own debachery. But before they went they had the most advanced psycic capability and technology that makes imperial equivilents look prehistoric.

There are the massive multi tudes of orks. A warlike race who live for nothing but battle. It was said that is they ever united they'd destroy the entire galaxy.

There are the tyranids. The unknown race from beyond this galaxy. They come to devour this galaxy as they have finished with their own.

Then there is the imperium of man. An ancient institution geared for a never ending war. millions die every day in their wars to keep the empire safe. but the imperium has billions more to throw at the meat grinder. THe space marines are a cut above the rest. They are genetically engineered and trained under the harshest conditions to be the best and the best they are. There is nothing they do but train and fight. Their is the shadowy inquisition. Always working behind veils to root out the traitor, heretic, mutant, and xenos before they can corrupt the rest of humanity. If a million souls die so that one of the unclean dies, then so be it. No cost is too high

Hey Ush... you missed this one.