Originally posted by abhilegendIt's unclear why you've wholly devolved towards using the ***got term so liberally.
There's no mods on this dead forum, phaggot.You got your answer, now what you little phaggot?
I imagine it's because you are so furious impotent that this is the first thing out of your spiteful mouth.
But in the spirit of engendering constructive discussion. Knock it off.
Originally posted by ODG
It's unclear why you've wholly devolved towards using the ***got term so liberally.I imagine it's because you are so furious impotent that this is the first thing out of your spiteful mouth.
But in the spirit of engendering constructive discussion. Knock it off.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Mod indifference is exactly why you were able to stalk me with 200+ posts across 10+ years even though being ignored. We all know that. We all know just how utterly obsessively butthurt you are. Over what discussions? Nobody even knows.But nobody is filling your diapers w/ sh1t other than you when you insist that Darkseid was not more powerful having obtained the ALE.
Originally posted by ODG
^ You're justifying your hateful language because you feel victimized by our interactions. Then you should put me on ignore.Because at this point, by chasing after me for 200+ posts across 20+ years, then you're the one begging for my attention out of some perverse self-masochistic compulsion.
^ Yes, you declared that possession of the Anti-Life Equation doesn't represent an amp. That was indeed your answer.
There is no further discussion to be had over such abject ignorance. List every character including Darkseid that possessed the ALE (or pieces thereof) at one time or another: Billion-Dollar Bates, Orion, Mister Miracle, Empress, Pied Piper, Angle Man, etc. Were they more powerful than before possessing the ALE? Yes, obviously so.
As well as Darkseid whose entire character history has revolved around him seeking the ALE.
You cannot help but howl otherwise though. Not because established comic history demonstrates otherwise. No, because you are just so obsessively butthurt that you're just left sh1tting up this thread (among others) with utter nonsense and bigoted slurs. You're so utterly twisted up in your own butthurt that your only escape avenue is hoping that mods close this thread due to your incessant abject flaming.
Sorry (but not sorry) to disabuse you of any notion that mods care to do so. You're just extending the self-inflicted embarrassment of your own butthurt obsession that was already amply demonstrated when you decided to chase after me with 200+ posts across 20+ years while being ignored.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Yes, you declared that possession of the Anti-Life Equation doesn't represent an amp. That was indeed your answer.
Glad to know that you can at least read.
There is no further discussion to be had over such abject ignorance. List every character including Darkseid that possessed the ALE (or pieces thereof) at one time or another: Billion-Dollar Bates, Orion, Mister Miracle, Empress, Pied Piper, Angle Man, etc. Were they more powerful than before possessing the ALE? Yes, obviously so.
Final Crisis was a giant ****ing retcon of new gods history if you don't know, you ****ing retard.
In Final Crisis ALE manifested as a math formula to rob people's will, it has no bearing on any previous depictions of ALE. Because New Gods and weapons of the new gods are archetypes of a higher, platonic world, it's depictions vary by each appearance.
It's an in universe plot device to reconcile contradictory appearances of new gods and ALE which changes its properties pretty much every time it appears.
As well as Darkseid whose entire character history has revolved around him seeking the ALE.
You cannot help but howl otherwise though. Not because established comic history demonstrates otherwise. No, because you are just so obsessively butthurt that you're just left sh1tting up this thread (among others) with utter nonsense and bigoted slurs. You're so utterly twisted up in your own butthurt that your only escape avenue is hoping that mods close this thread due to your incessant abject flaming.
Sorry (but not sorry) to disabuse you of any notion that mods care to do so. You're just extending the self-inflicted embarrassment of your own butthurt obsession that was already amply demonstrated when you decided to chase after me with 200+ posts across 20+ years while being ignored.
You're monumentally stupid. That's it.
Originally posted by abhilegendIt definitely has bearing as Final Crisis recontextualizes the true scope of the ALE that had been only hinted at prior. Because the previous depictions of the ALE were merely "facets of the unimaginable whole that is the complete Anti-Life Equation" that actually manifested in Final Crisis. Not my words, btw. And made manifestly obvious by the main storyline of Final Crisis and all of it's leadups and side-stories.
In Final Crisis ALE manifested as a math formula to rob people's will, it has no bearing on any previous depictions of ALE.
Originally posted by abhilegendStatement of unextraordinary fact. Which would only serve to disprove your facile attempt to belittle the ALE as constituting only simple mind-control.
Because New Gods and weapons of the new gods are archetypes of a higher, platonic world, it's depictions vary by each appearance.
Originally posted by abhilegendStatement of unextraordinary fact. Which would only serve to disprove your facile attempt to belittle the ALE as constituting only simple mind-control. Final Crisis was not a storyline that trivialized the ALE into being lesser than what it had been historically portrayed as. Final Crisis underscored the unimaginably frightful true scope of the ALE as the God-weapon it was always hinted as being.
It's an in universe plot device to reconcile contradictory appearances of new gods and ALE which changes its properties pretty much every time it appears.
You're pretending to argue with me by lacing half of your posts with uncontroversial statements that actually serve to undermine your own spiteful stance if you had a lick of self-awareness. It's hauntingly similar to the pernicious pattern that flat-earthers resort to:
"Y'see, Earth is not a sphere. The solar system's planetary bodies are spheres. Earth's Moon is a sphere, Mars and Jupiter are spheres, etc.
. . . . .
Whaddaya mean that pattern should prove Earth is also a sphere? Have you ever seen the Earth from an outside vantage point? No, you haven't.
. . . . .
NASA pictures don't count because NASA is in on the conspiracy trying to hide the icewalls at the edges of Earth.
. . . . .
No, but NASA pictures of the Moon, Mars, etc. do count. But not the "fake" ones of Earth just because."
Here, in this so-called "argument" about Darkseid w/ ALE, you pretend to accept that the ALE has, historically on-panel, proven to far more than simple mind-control even before Final Crisis. You also feign acknowledgement that Final Crisis was the meant to be the ultimate recontextualization of the ALE's true scope. You have to, because your obsessive aggrandization of Darkseid's personal power as a New God literally relies on that same recontextualization that Final Crisis offers the Fourth World and its characters and concepts.
But this is the point you hypocritically sh1t your diapers and pretend that the ALE had little to do with Final Crisis's ultimate calamity. That sh1t argument was peddled by many a KMC poster before your creepy stalking a$$. It didn't pass muster back in 2008. It doesn't now. It's nearly the same self-serving horsesh1t that IG Thanos fanboys peddled pretending that his feats against Marvel Earth's heroes could be divorced from the IG by butchering the notion of "sensory input". Except that particular KMC myth had actual legs before its prononents were humiliated into obscurity.
This attempted "Final Crisis ALE=mind control only" myth was stillborn and slithered down the a$$-crack of its whore mother. Figures only someone like you would attempt to back it.
kinda
Originally posted by ODG
It definitely has bearing as Final Crisis recontextualizes the true scope of the ALE that had been only hinted at prior. Because the previous depictions of the ALE were merely "facets of the unimaginable whole that is the complete Anti-Life Equation" that actually manifested in Final Crisis. Not my words, btw. And made manifestly obvious by the main storyline of Final Crisis and all of it's leadups and side-stories. Statement of unextraordinary fact. Which would only serve to disprove your facile attempt to belittle the ALE as constituting only simple mind-control. Statement of unextraordinary fact. Which would only serve to disprove your facile attempt to belittle the ALE as constituting only simple mind-control. Final Crisis was not a storyline that trivialized the ALE into being lesser than what it had been historically portrayed as. Final Crisis underscored the unimaginably frightful true scope of the ALE as the God-weapon it was always hinted as being.
Originally posted by ODG
You're pretending to argue with me by lacing half of your posts with uncontroversial statements that actually serve to undermine your own spiteful stance if you had a lick of self-awareness. It's hauntingly similar to the pernicious pattern that flat-earthers resort to:"Y'see, Earth is not a sphere. The solar system's planetary bodies are spheres. Earth's Moon is a sphere, Mars and Jupiter are spheres, etc.
. . . . .
Whaddaya mean that pattern should prove Earth is also a sphere? Have you ever seen the Earth from an outside vantage point? No, you haven't.
. . . . .
NASA pictures don't count because NASA is in on the conspiracy trying to hide the icewalls at the edges of Earth.
. . . . .
No, but NASA pictures of the Moon, Mars, etc. do count. But not the "fake" ones of Earth just because."
Originally posted by ODG
Here, in this so-called "argument" about Darkseid w/ ALE, you pretend to accept that the ALE has, historically on-panel, proven to far more than simple mind-control even before Final Crisis. You also feign acknowledgement that Final Crisis was the meant to be the ultimate recontextualization of the ALE's true scope. You have to, because your obsessive aggrandization of Darkseid's personal power as a New God literally relies on that same recontextualization that Final Crisis offers the Fourth World and its characters and concepts.But this is the point you hypocritically sh1t your diapers and pretend that the ALE had little to do with Final Crisis's ultimate calamity. That sh1t argument was peddled by many a KMC poster before your creepy stalking a$$. It didn't pass muster back in 2008. It doesn't now. It's nearly the same self-serving horsesh1t that IG Thanos fanboys peddled pretending that his feats against Marvel Earth's heroes could be divorced from the IG by butchering the notion of "sensory input". Except that particular KMC myth had actual legs before its prononents were humiliated into obscurity.
This attempted "Final Crisis ALE=mind control only" myth was stillborn and slithered down the a$$-crack of its whore mother. Figures only someone like you would attempt to back it.
kinda
"A mathematical formula for absolute control, capable of disproving the very concept of free will and enslaving all who are exposed to it".
There you go, direct from the comic itself. Unless you think you know better than the writer himself, this long rant is for nothing.
^ You'll peddle the same impotent arguments like your forebears but you have to stand on a high-chair to kiss their a$$es and have never actually countered the comics themselves. You can pretend that the ALE during Final Crisis was nothing more than simple mind-control but:
Mokkari pressed a button on a keyboard to unleash the ALE that cracked time and space. On-panel:
And Spectre wrecked creation by speaking the ALE. On-panel:
And given that your argument is the ALE is strictly limited to only stripping free will, then how did normal humans start shooting Omega Finder Beams???? On-panel:
These are all rhetorical questions. Because your trollish b1tch-a$$ has no better arguments than those offered and swiftly slapped down back in 2008.
Originally posted by ODG
^ You'll peddle the same impotent arguments like your forebears but you have to stand on a high-chair to kiss their a$$es and have never actually countered the comics themselves. You can pretend that the ALE during Final Crisis was nothing more than simple mind-control but:Mokkari pressed a button on a keyboard to unleash the ALE that cracked time and space. On-panel:
And Spectre wrecked creation by speaking the ALE. On-panel:
ALE was spoken even before Mokkari or Spectre said it. Nothing happened, literally.
We have been over this, you ****ing retard. Repeating the same thing wouldn't make it true.
Originally posted by ODG
And given that your argument is the ALE is strictly limited to only stripping free will, then how did normal humans start shooting Omega Finder Beams???? On-panel:
Darkseid possessed them, it's right there lol.
These are all rhetorical questions. Because your trollish b1tch-a$$ has no better arguments than those offered and swiftly slapped down back in 2008.
You're an idiot. This is straight up denial because of your hatred of Darkseid, a fictional character.
Originally posted by abhilegendSo your argument is that Mokkari and Spectre didn't actually do anything. Wow.
ALE was spoken even before Mokkari or Spectre said it. Nothing happened, literally.
Originally posted by abhilegendYes, we have. And you are 100% right. You repeating the same garbage arguments doesn't make your arguments true. They've been dismissed into oblivion for decades.
We have been over this, you ****ing retard. Repeating the same thing wouldn't make it true.
You haven't actually proven that what Final Crisis Darkseid did could be separated from the ALE amp that he clearly possessed. I have argued this with your betters like Allankles, TricksterPriest, kevdude, WhiteWitchKing, The Great Galen, comicfan11, Philosophia etc.
You'd have to erect a skyscraper just to kiss their a$$es before deigning to enjoy their arguments.
Originally posted by abhilegendImbuing thralls with actual Omegafinder beams is different than simple mind-control though, isn't it?
Darkseid possessed them, it's right there lol.
You are so uncontrollably butthurt over that simple fact, aren't you?
But explain it. The difference. Go ahead. As if your forebears didn't ineffectually stumble over themselves to do so.
Originally posted by ODG
So your argument is that Mokkari and Spectre didn't actually do anything. Wow.
Circular arguments are so funny.
Yes, we have. And you are 100% right. You repeating the same garbage arguments doesn't make your arguments true. They've been dismissed into oblivion for decades.
You haven't actually proven that what Final Crisis Darkseid did could be separated from the ALE amp that he clearly possessed.
I have argued this with your betters like Allankles, TricksterPriest, kevdude, WhiteWitchKing, The Great Galen, comicfan11, Philosophia etc.
Nobody cares.
You'd have to erect a skyscraper just to kiss their a$$es before deigning to enjoy their arguments. Imbuing thralls with actual Omegafinder beams is different than simple mind-control though, isn't it?
You are so uncontrollably butthurt over that simple fact, aren't you?
But explain it. The difference. Go ahead. As if your forebears didn't ineffectually stumble over themselves to do so.
Yawn, the same garbage every time. Typical.
Originally posted by abhilegend
ALE was spoken even before Mokkari or Spectre said it. Nothing happened, literally.We have been over this, you ****ing retard. Repeating the same thing wouldn't make it true.
Your scan shows the kids with glowing red eyes after having been taught the equation - he's not possessing them there. They've been changed. Literally says how they've been mutated.
The story tells us Time/Space broke during the 'war in heaven', which was even before falling to Earth.
And the multiverse was already being dragged down by Darkseid's godly presence on Earth.
The Antilife equation being released and expanding Darkseid's influence may have accelerated things, but it was all already happening.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Your scan shows the kids with glowing red eyes after having been taught the equation - he's not possessing them there. They've been changed. Literally says how they've been mutated.
Originally posted by Juntai
The story tells us Time/Space broke during the 'war in heaven', which was even before falling to Earth.
And the multiverse was already being dragged down by Darkseid's godly presence on Earth.The Antilife equation being released and expanding Darkseid's influence may have accelerated things, but it was all already happening.
ODG point blank refuses to accept that there's a true form of Darkseid to begin with. It's the most bizarre thing to read lol.