Orion was supposed to be more powerful than pre-crisis Darkseid, and Darkseid was, back then equal to Galactus.
So, whenever Orion was supposed to surpass Darkseid, he would have surpassed Galactus. Meaning, with enough time, the AF would be above Galactus.
But, not now of course.
Power Cosmic can do more variety of things. AF can only kill.
So, probably PC.
<<if you said AF it would mean Orion could beat full power Galactus>>
not necessarily. it would depend on the extent to which he might use it. the af stems from the source -- in all of dc is their a GREATER source upon which to draw? is it not speculated that the source is a manifestation of sorts of the presence's power? if that is indeed the case, to be equal, a marvel hero would need to wield something akin to the phoenix force.
and just what is the pc? ss DRAWS on the pc by absorbing ambient cosmic energy from the universe. is it the universe's energy? the source stems from a place BEYOND the universe. i contend that the af is actually the more potent of the 2, though pc certainly seems to have greater uses. orion can only channel the af through his harness, and can only use it to create shields, augment his strength and blast things.
orion is i think certainly on par with ss. he just doesn't possess the same command of the af as ss does of the pc.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<if you said AF it would mean Orion could beat full power Galactus>>not necessarily. it would depend on the extent to which he might use it. the af stems from the source -- in all of dc is their a GREATER source upon which to draw? is it not speculated that the source is a manifestation of sorts of the presence's power? if that is indeed the case, to be equal, a marvel hero would need to wield something akin to the phoenix force.
and just what is the pc? ss DRAWS on the pc by absorbing ambient cosmic energy from the universe. is it the universe's energy? the source stems from a place BEYOND the universe. i contend that the af is actually the more potent of the 2, though pc certainly seems to have greater uses. orion can only channel the af through his harness, and can only use it to create shields, augment his strength and blast things.
orion is i think certainly on par with ss. he just doesn't possess the same command of the af as ss does of the pc.
Power cosmic is a lame ass PIS device. It sounds as stupid as it is. "Gee, I can't think of a way to resolve this...so lets let POWER COSMIC solve the problem!"
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Power cosmic is a lame ass PIS device. It sounds as stupid as it is. "Gee, I can't think of a way to resolve this...so lets let POWER COSMIC solve the problem!"
No biggie actually. Superman is PIS device.
- Heat vision > OE
- T-Vo
- Strength to put Darkseid into Source Wall
- Sundipping - PIS within PIS
- Boom tubing powers
<<Power of cosmic is limitless potential, AF has it's limits but affective. I'll take the power of cosmic any day of the week.>>
what limits have you seen? ss's 'limitless' power was nothing compared to odin's and is nothing compared to thanos's. even galactus's power fluctuates madly. again, af comes from the source. where does pc come from that would make it more potent? so far, people have said pc, but have given no reason/evidence to back up their opinions.