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BobbyD Animal Lover

Spectre vs Thanos

Spectre has a direct order from The Presence vs Thanos with THOTU.

My money is on Spectre because a direct order supercedes a toy created by TOAA/The Presence.

Adam Warlock Adam is with Team Magik

Thanos will slap damn near anyone with the HOTU. Thanos wins.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Spectre wins.

BobbyD Animal Lover

Again, I'm thinking Spectre wins because an order given to him by The Presence in carrying out a task virtually turns Spectre into an arm of The Presence/TOAA, thus nullifying Thanos with THOTU.

Did that make sense to anyone?

Adam Warlock Adam is with Team Magik

The Presence or the TOAA themselves have to stop Thanos if he has the HOTU.

Thanos with HOTU > LT = Spectre(Powered by the Presence)

Adam Warlock Adam is with Team Magik

Or Warlock(Marvel's Messiah) could simply talk him out of such a power. 🙂

BobbyD Animal Lover

Are you sure, Adam?

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
The Presence or the TOAA themselves have to stop Thanos if he has the HOTU.
Thanos with HOTU > LT = Spectre(Powered by the Presence)

LT<<Spectre, Spectre is an aspect of God, not powered by it. He is another piece of it called Logoz.

Presence/Source/Logoz are all just aspects.

Technically, Spectre = Presence currently
Which is of course greater than HOTU.

Adam Warlock Adam is with Team Magik

Originally posted by Juntai
LT<<Spectre, Spectre is an aspect of God, not powered by it. He is another piece of it called Logoz.
Presence/Source/Logoz are all just aspects.
Technically, Spectre = Presence currently
Which is of course greater than HOTU.

To you everything equals the Presence. Have it be Pre-Crisis Darkseid, Spectre or a Full Potential Flash that can rain down Multiverses as attacks.

Read THE END saga. 🙂

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
To you everything equals the Presence. Have it be Pre-Crisis Darkseid, Spectre or a Full Potential Flash that can rain down Multiverses as attacks.
Read THE END saga. 🙂

Out of that group only Spectre is in a league with Presence.
Darkseid seeks the anti-life equation that WOULD make him near the Presence's power
and FPF would be closer to a Guardian's level, since I even pointed the comic where it is called the same force the guardians drawn energy from. Unless by FULL POTENTIAL you erringly mean Flash with no PIS/CIS?

Adam Warlock Adam is with Team Magik

Originally posted by BobbyD
Are you sure, Adam?

I'm sure of my opinion. Opinions Vary. LT has judged against beings like Thanos and Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet. The Heart Of The Universe is quite beyond the IG or the Phoenix Force...(Hides in fear of a backlash from GS bag)

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I'm sure of my opinion. Opinions Vary. LT has judged against beings like Thanos and Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet. The Heart Of The Universe is quite beyond the IG or the Phoenix Force...(Hides in fear of a backlash from GS bag)

To be fair going by on panel depictions HOTU hasnt done anything Phoenix hasnt been stated and/or shown to be capable of. Phoenix collapses reality at the end of the creation cycle and claims LT in this process. Thats what happens naturally according to X-men Forever. The fact that it was possible for Stranger to tap into Phoenix and bring this end about on his own timetable shows you how great this power is.

So how exactly is it greater again?

On top of that as an aspect of God a part of God i believe Spectre if supported by the Presence would be able to defeat one who is merely tapping into gods power. Thats just my opinion.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
To be fair going by on panel depictions HOTU hasnt done anything Phoenix hasnt been stated and/or shown to be capable of. Phoenix collapses reality at the end of the creation cycle and claims LT in this process. Thats what happens naturally according to X-men Forever. The fact that it was possible for Stranger to tap into Phoenix and bring this end about on his own timetable shows you how great this power is.
So how exactly is it greater again?
On top of that as an aspect of God a part of God i believe Spectre if supported by the Presence would be able to defeat one who is merely tapping into gods power. Thats just my opinion.

And mine as well.

And technically with Presence's backing it would 2 aspects working together as well.

People forget Spectre Force doesn't use Presence's power anymore and he's not a cursed fallen angel anymore either, he's a full on piece of God.

sam_drugbringer Senior Member

If the mission required it, The Spectre could be as powerful as the presence (Alomst anyway)

He wins.

BobbyD Animal Lover

...(Hides in fear of a backlash from GS ) 😆

Good stuff, Adam. 😆

Adam Warlock Adam is with Team Magik

Spectre = Presence? No.

Spectre's just a fallen angel. He's nothing special. With the Persmission of the Presence, he is powerful, but can still be owned by the likes of Lucifer and The Great Beast. Those guys are in the Presence's league. Not Spectre.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Spectre = Presence? No.
Spectre's just a fallen angel. He's nothing special. With the Persmission of the Presence, he is powerful, but can still be owned by the likes of Lucifer and The Great Beast. Those guys are in the Presence's league. Not Spectre.

Specre is NOT a fallen angel, that was pre-retcon Spectre, currently he is THE LOGOZ. A piece of God itself. Another one of the aspects. And the only reason Micheal even beat The Spectre in past occurances is because he was powered by The Presence and the HOST not to be confused with The Spectre, was NOT being powered by The LOGOZ.
Seriously, read Jordan's run of Spectre, it will make things clear.

Adam Warlock Adam is with Team Magik

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
To be fair going by on panel depictions HOTU hasnt done anything Phoenix hasnt been stated and/or shown to be capable of. Phoenix collapses reality at the end of the creation cycle and claims LT in this process. Thats what happens naturally according to X-men Forever. The fact that it was possible for Stranger to tap into Phoenix and bring this end about on his own timetable shows you how great this power is.
So how exactly is it greater again?
On top of that as an aspect of God a part of God i believe Spectre if supported by the Presence would be able to defeat one who is merely tapping into gods power. Thats just my opinion.

Hmmm... Thanos wiped everything from existence... Then he brought everything back... Creation and destruction. Sounds like The Phoenix Force. Are they equal in your opinion? If they are, then Spectre will surely own the Phoenix Force as well.

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RSSR Senior Member

Thanos with HOTU? I'm thinking Thanos can win this one. With it, he became equal to TOAA.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Hmmm... Thanos wiped everything from existence... Then he brought everything back... Creation and destruction. Sounds like The Phoenix Force. Are they equal in your opinion? If they are, then Spectre will surely own the Phoenix Force as well.
Takes on secret identity to hide from GS backlash. man

In Crisis on Infinite Earths, The Spectre destroyed and recreated the Pre Crisis multiverse into the DCUniverse and banished the Anti-Monitor from the matter realm.. at the same time.. In Zero Hour, he battled Parallax until he was out of energy, then Green Arrow shot him and downed him, then Spectre turned Damage into the big bang to restart time as it was so they could replace full power Hal with defeated Hal and correct the universe.