Originally posted by Bardock42
Why do you decide what is a wrong and what a right part of nature? `Also, they kept it up for many thousands of years now and it did not die out, how do you explain that?
I am not saying what is wrong and what is right.If everyone was gay there would be no body around.Not alot of animals are gay and if there was as many as you say there is they would be dead and no body would even know.jm 🙂
Originally posted by Alliance
Do you know what percentage of the world is left handed? Just because there is a minority doesn't mean it is unnatural or wrong.Did you also knwo that homosexuals can have heterosexual sex and heterosexuals can have homosexual sex?
Yes I do but why are you bringing up lefted and right hand?It has nothering to do with being gay!God made adam and and eve and a man and woman the first humans on earth!
Do you think if he wanted gay people he would make two man and two woman to be the first human on the earth?jm 🙂
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Yes I do but why are you bringing up lefted and right hand?It has nothering to do with being gay!God made adam and and eve and a man and woman the first humans on earth!
Do you think if he wanted gay people he would make two man and two woman to be the first human on the earth?jm 🙂
You are number one.
http://www.jeramyt.org/gay.html
Huh. I think I might have to change my views.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I am not saying what is wrong and what is right.If everyone was gay there would be no body around.Not alot of animals are gay and if there was as many as you say there is they would be dead and no body would even know.jm 🙂
And there are not that many gay people around, but it is a steady number. So they are just like nature intended them, they are not unnatural or sinful, they do what they do for the same reasons you do what you do.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Yes I do but why are you bringing up lefted and right hand?It has nothering to do with being gay!God made adam and and eve and a man and woman the first humans on earth!
Do you think if he wanted gay people he would make two man and two woman to be the first human on the earth?jm 🙂
If God had not wanted homosexuals...why did he make them? He could have just made no one aturally long for a partner of the same sex. Why did he do it? Is he a sadist? Or just really, really dumb?
Originally posted by AllianceFunny you should mention that actually, a few hundred years ago, people did think it was unnatural (and evil) to be left handed. Left handed people back then were caned to write with their right hand. Funny how fundamentalists seem to forget their own mistakes.
Do you know what percentage of the world is left handed? Just because there is a minority doesn't mean it is unnatural or wrong.Did you also knwo that homosexuals can have heterosexual sex and heterosexuals can have homosexual sex?
Actually...its hilarious, but it does severe harm to society. I used that specific example for a reason.
Left handed people is a great example of similar situations, so is the "black people are black because they are sinners" argument, and the interracial marriage argument.
Its amazing how many times stupid people repeat history.
Originally posted by ADarksideJediAccording to the church and the Bible it IS a sin to think it.
God gave us all free well.He did not make people think the way they do they think on there own.Thinking you are like someone of your own sexs is different then actly acting towards it.It is not a sin to think it but to do it is.JM
One of the things that Jesus said that I didn't like was Thinking it in your heart is same as doing it
Originally posted by debbiejo
According to the church and the Bible it IS a sin to think it.One of the things that Jesus said that I didn't like was Thinking it in your heart is same as doing it
But, what kind of thought qualifies as "thinking it"?
Also, thoughts are physiological in nature. Given this, control is sometimes impossible until after the advent of the thought. So, context of the thought combined with what intentional mental activity follows the thought. Thinking it is not always the same, and the references to what you are addressing do not necessitate such a literal interpretation.
Also, what does it mean to "think it in your heart"? I would assert that to think something in this manner would entail a strong desire for the content of the thought. Thus, the concept here is more complex than it seems you are giving it.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh o_n a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.Matthew 5:27&28
Can also mean a man also....
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:21&22
Thinking angry thoughts.
He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." (Acts 1:7-11, NIV)
Rapture lust??.......
Originally posted by Regret
But, what kind of thought qualifies as "thinking it"?Also, thoughts are physiological in nature. Given this, control is sometimes impossible until after the advent of the thought. So, context of the thought combined with what intentional mental activity follows the thought. Thinking it is not always the same, and the references to what you are addressing do not necessitate such a literal interpretation.
Also, what does it mean to "think it in your heart"? I would assert that to think something in this manner would entail a strong desire for the content of the thought. Thus, the concept here is more complex than it seems you are giving it.
Technically...its not a complex issue at all.