On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Simple answer from me, though it is an area of debate amongst Christians... Jesus is God.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Simple answer from me, though it is an area of debate amongst Christians... Jesus is God.

So Jesus is his own father ? 😆

We had this argument before, here we go again !

What if the answer was yes?

Then Christan's have some semantics issues.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Simple answer from me, though it is an area of debate amongst Christians... Jesus is God.

Sir Isaac Newton disagrees....

I know. Newton wasn't right about everything. I'm not entirely sure myself.

😂

I find Newton's argument to be very logical. It spoke to his theory of gravity.

Newton wasn't entirely right on his concept of science, and thats a big issue for me.

Newtons Law is dinosaur. Things aren't like machinery anymore as we know with new discoveries and theories...............It's old..........Are WE machines?.....NO, nothing is.........We ARE NOT....Newton was a building block to what we are learning now, just as others before him and just as other after our time....

Originally posted by Alliance
Your "they are not of-God" argument fails miserably. Its never worked before. Only zealots claim they have a monopoly on abstract concepts.

Besides that, most "sins" aren't punishble by death. EVERY instance in the bible that mentions homosexuality states that death is the punishment. THats against homosexuals.

Besides that, its against homosexuals because sexuality is not a choice. Does the "they are black because they are sinners" argument ring any hisotrical bells?

ONCE again, religion FAILS to be on the moral side of socail issues. ONCE again, people of your narrow opinon will die out and in the future, some new zealot will call you "not a true-Christian" because you are intolerant of homosexuals. The Bible will be reinterpreted a different way AGAIN, and zealots will still claim a literal interpretation.

Honsetly, some people NEVER get it.

* i think you never tried to understand the verse i gave, please read I Corinthians 6:9-11 again... if the homosexuals leave their sinful acts, they are, i repeat, candidates for salvation...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Irrelevant....

Why were those laws there in the first place ? It was okay to murder Gays back then, but its wrong now ?

🙄

And if its obsolete, then why is it still in the Bible ? It seems most of the Bible is obsolete....why bother with most of it ?

* why is it still ther? Biblical history, my friend... why were those laws there in the first place? see first if the laws were commanded to you...

"Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, even statutes and ordinances."
Malachi 4:4

* the law of God given to Moses was for Israel and the Israelites... not all commandments should be obeyed, see first if those laws were commanded to you... if not, try to build a huge ark, it's also a commandment... 😉

All homosexuals are candidates for salvation, even--supposing it were a sin--those who actively participate in the homosexual lifestyle.

Originally posted by Nellinator
What if the answer was yes?

Then that be kinky droolio

Originally posted by FeceMan
All homosexuals are candidates for salvation, even--supposing it were a sin--those who actively participate in the homosexual lifestyle.

There is nothing to be saved from.

Originally posted by FeceMan
All homosexuals are candidates for salvation, even--supposing it were a sin--those who actively participate in the homosexual lifestyle.

That doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
That doesn't make any sense.

You mean the Bible ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You mean the Bible ?

No, I mean the statement. If he supposes it's a sin, then it's possible for it not to be a sin. That means homosexuals have no reason to be forgiven.

But there is no such thing as an unforgivable sin.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
No, I mean the statement. If he supposes it's a sin, then it's possible for it not to be a sin. That means homosexuals have no reason to be forgiven.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But there is no such thing as an unforgivable sin.

That's not what I'm addressing.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Contrary to popular belief, homosexuals are people, too. Therefore, they have a tendency to sin.

Then your opinion would be better directed at people in general, not homosexuals. I know this thread is about them, but there's no reason to connect homosexuality with sin if you believe it isn't one.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
That's not what I'm addressing.

Then your opinion would be better directed at people in general, not homosexuals. I know this thread is about them, but there's no reason to connect homosexuality with sin if you believe it isn't one.

Why argue about sin when the Christian concept of sin is flawed?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why argue about sin when the Christian concept of sin is flawed?

Because that's what the thread is about.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Then your opinion would be better directed at people in general, not homosexuals. I know this thread is about them, but there's no reason to connect homosexuality with sin if you believe it isn't one.